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    Here are the actual quotes from the article, without Rapidcreek’s opinions mixed in. There’s actually good reason to be optimistic about this agreement.

    “Israel has accepted this proposal and the Security Council has an opportunity to speak with one voice and call on Hamas to do the same,” his statement continued. “Doing so would help save lives and the suffering of civilians in Gaza as well as the hostages and their families. Council Members should not let this opportunity to pass by and must speak with one voice in support of this deal.”

    Hamas released a statement following the vote saying they “welcome” what was included in the draft resolution “regarding a permanent cease-fire in Gaza.”

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    Does this one only call for a temporary ceasefire in exchange for the hostages? If so that’s still a non-starter and Biden knows it, if Israel isn’t withdrawing permanently then it’s not really of any benefit to the people of Gaza and the genocide will continue immediately after Israel gets the hostages.

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      It’s a three-phase agreement, from ceasefire to reconstruction of Gaza.

      Biden said the first phase of the proposed deal would would last for six weeks and would include a “full and complete cease-fire,” a withdrawal of Israeli forces from all densely populated areas of Gaza and the release of a number of hostages, including women, the elderly and the wounded, in exchange for the release of hundreds of Palestinian prisoners.

      The second phase would include the release of all remaining living hostages, including male soldiers, and Israeli forces would withdraw from Gaza. “And as long as Hamas lives up to its commitments, the temporary cease-fire would become, in the words of the Israeli proposal, ‘the cessation of hostilities permanently,’” Biden said.

      The third phase calls for the start of a major reconstruction of Gaza, which faces decades of rebuilding from devastation caused by the war. The 4-1/2 page Israeli proposal was transmitted to Hamas on Thursday.

      https://apnews.com/article/biden-israel-hamas-58169a607d4a7c4d7fc34f43160076b8

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      No, it just starts with a six week temporary cease-fire and hostage/prisoner exchange. It then progresses from there.

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    Yesterday, the UN Security Council passed a resolution supporting the deal that President Biden claims is Israel’s deal. Hamas publicly stated they view this deal as a positive step. Today, Secretary of State Antony Blinken, in Israel, declared support for the agreement passed by the UN, pressuring Israel to agree. Israeli media reported that the resolution differs from what Israel agreed to. The Biden administration fears that Israeli PM Netanyahu might reject the deal even if Hamas accepts it. Israeli officials say that they will not cease military operations until all goals are achieved. The focus now shifts to Hamas’s response, especially given concerns about the impact of recent rescue operations on Hamas’s stance. Politically, Netanyahu’s position is stronger in the short term after Gantz’s resignation and the recent rescue mission. The final decision rests with Hamas.

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      The Biden administration fears that Israeli PM Netanyahu might reject the deal even if Hamas accepts it.

      The final decision rests with Hamas.

      Those two statements seem to be in contradiction.

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          I am aware of that; I checked.

          I also didn’t make mention of it, because it’s really not relevant.

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          I read more than one source, especially when I’m interested. What “opinion” do you find objectionable?

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            I don’t find it objectionable. I find it missing citation and in direct conflict with the contents of the article. The article states that Netanyahu has agreed to the ceasefire. You stated that the Biden administration fears Netanyahu may not agree. Do you have a source that supports your claim?

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              One of different news outlets made that conjecture. I’ll see if I can find it. Blnken is in Isreal for a reason.

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                According to the article he’s there to press Hamas to agree to the ceasefire.

                The vote comes as Secretary of State Antony Blinken is in the Middle East to further negotiate the cease-fire and hostage agreement.

                As he departed Cairo earlier Monday for Tel Aviv, Blinken called it a “critical moment.”

                “My message to governments throughout the region, to people throughout the region: If you want a cease-fire, press Hamas to say yes,” Blinken told reporters. "If you want to alleviate the terrible suffering of Palestinians in Gaza, press Hamas to say yes.

                “If you want to get all the hostages home, press Hamas to say yes,” he continued. “If you want to put present Palestinians and Israelis alike on the path to more durable peace and security, if you want to prevent this conflict from spreading, press Hamas to say yes.”

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        Yup, but notice that they want to see details. There is always a devil in the details. However, good sign.