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      So, average German here. Person I have never heard of gets an award I’ve never heard of. Doesn’t seem very peaceful to me tho.

      I’d say I’m interested in hearing the reasoning, but that would be a lie. It’s been a while since I cared about any such awards.

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      No real opinion about it, tbh.

      It’s a “price” handed out by a for-profit conglomerate, so it’s not really something I ever thought about in all the years it very briefly came up. In fact this is the first I’m reminded about it existing in 4 years or so? I doubt most germans have ever heard of the “Börsenverein”, nevermind it’s “price” or this author or what she wrote.

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        I’m no nazi apologist, but given how many members of the party were average people who didn’t take part in the genocide, I don’t really know what else you’d expect. Yes, probably a lot more higher ups and definitely anyone who had direct knowledge of the camps should have been up for war crimes, but what about the schlub who repaired people’s plumbing?

        Fuck all nazis. See a nazi, punch a nazi. All that jazz.

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          My shirt saying “I’m no nazi apologist, but…” has people asking a lot of questions that are already answered by my shirt

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            Fuck off. I raised the point that vilifying people who had party affiliation but no real participation is wrong and that’s valid. I hate that my mother votes for Trump, but that doesn’t make her evil. She’s bigoted and misguided. She’s certainly no Steve Bannon.

            Further, contemporary nazis have no excuse while in early-20th Germany there was far less access to non-state information. My mother’s a useful idiot to the right whereas modern day nazis know exactly what they’re supporting. Modern nazism gets no benefit of the doubt.

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              I raised the point that vilifying people who had party affiliation but no real participation is wrong and that’s valid

              So I saw your shirt and and that made me have some questions. Explain the difference between your Nazi apologia and the clean Wehrmacht myth.

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              they joined the nazi party, mate. they went and did it. it’s not like someone drove by and threw a membership book at them and boom, they were now nazis. they went and deliberately joined the most racist party.

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          Fuck all nazis. See a nazi, punch a nazi. All that jazz.

          Nah dude fuck all the way off you don’t get to defend ACTUAL NAZI PARTY MEMBERS and then say that.

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      Israel has the right to exist bro which also covers an ethnic cleansing to make ww2 right

      That’s about the only thing a German can muster up nowadays it seems.

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        I think people misinterpreted your comment. I read it as “Israel has the right to exist bro, which includes ethnic cleansing to right the wrongs of WW2”. You know, sarcastically

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          U read it right but I think so did most of down voters, they just don’t want to accept that this is really how the logic works.

          Normal person can’t accept that the world works like this it seems. So they will enable it to work like this lol

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            If “Common sense” is rationalize genocide, then I don’t need it. Seriously. Your types normally deny it. Now you’re just encouraging an endless cycle of violence. In 20 to 30 years, when the surviving Palestinian kids have grown up and gotten their own resources, are you just going to be fine with them attacking Israel or burning synagogues? Cause accounting to your logic, it would be their turn.

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              You are attacking the messenger… This is the time line we got and this is the logic currently employed by zionists, israel and their acolytes.

              They clearly don’t care about how Palestinian children grow up… if at all.

              So under their, logic yes, it seems that’s what they want so they can finish the genocide.

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                  It would be propaganda if it was not true.

                  If you got issue with above thesis, please provide a counter argument that would explain away current situation better.

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    Regular Nobel Prize Recipient Barack “Blow up Doctors Without Borders” Obama: Amateurs

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    The article has some really weird parts underlining somebody’s anti-Russian and pro-Ukrainian while discussing Gaza/Israel -situation. It’s like there’s one larger eastern power killing indiscriminantly a smaller population west of them. And per article it’s horrific when it’s Gaza but somehow it’s US and UK imperialism when Russians are killing/raping/pillagin in Ukraine.

    I’d take the source with a grain of salt.

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      Neither of these conflicts are indiscriminate killings. Israel is deliberately targeting civilians and children. Russia is targeting military targets. It’s not through pure chance that Israel has killed over a hundred times as many children.