• redisdead@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    Felon = already shown they aren’t normal human beings fit for society. I’m not going to trust my property to a known criminal, when I can easily get someone who’s normal.

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      3 months ago

      Eh. That itself is a slippery issue, especially for the wrongfully convicted. Not to mention, if they do their time, they should no longer be punished.

      There’s only a very small minority of truly heinous humans who should be locked away forever.

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        I genuinely don’t care. If I have the choice between felon and a not felon, I’ll go with the not felon every day. It’s the easiest choice I’ll make in my life.

        If they didn’t want to deal with the issues caused by being a felon, they should not have committed felonies. Simple as.

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          Okay, yeah, fuck off with your bullshit.

          Our system is stupid, and you can’t recognize that, because you’re probably equally so.

          Until you understand that our justice system is beyond flawed and systemically problematic, your opinion should be considered less than dirt.

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            Vast majority of people manage to not become felons by not committing felonies

            Out of lm the people who are convicted felons, I don’t think I’m wrong thinking those who are wrongly convicted are an insignificant minority

            Sucks to be them, but I won’t try my luck on the absolute minimal off chance they weren’t a criminal.

            If you don’t want to deal with the baggage that comes with being a felon, don’t commit felonies. It’s not hard, plenty of people manage to do it.

            I filter potential tenants and it’s served me well. I never had to do huge repairs or anything on any of my rentals.

            Most of my idealistic buddies who believe they operate a charity can’t say the same.

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              Damn, reading this comment chain I kept thinking you couldn’t be worse and each response you amaze me. You’re an asshole and imo you’re likely doing more harm to society than felons who make it out and just want to find work and shelter. Have some empathy

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                They are a landlord, why would you expect them to be anything but this?

                That is, if this person isn’t just making that up, and isn’t just some edgy loser on the internet.

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                  They are a felon, why would you expect them to be anything but rapists, murderers or pedophiles? You don’t want to assume anything about a felon, but assumptions about landlords are somehow fine

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                    You and the landlord have just been found guilty by a jury of your peers of being absolute jackasses, far beyond a reasonable doubt.

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                    You aren’t even insightful enough to know when your logic is being turned against you as a rhetorical device.

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                Sorry, I’m not willing to house rapists, murderers and pedophiles. Feel free to invest a significant portion of your time and money to do so if you wish to. Tell me how it goes for you.

                Actually don’t, I’ve seen what happens when people do.

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                Ah yes, because one guy out of a million might not deserve it, I should seek to house rapists, murderers and pedophiles.

                Y’all have a strange sense of priorities.

                Look, don’t be a felon. It’s not hard. Plenty of people are not.

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      That’s a free-rider problem. As an individual, you don’t want to rent to a convicted criminal. But as a society, we want criminals that served their time to be able to rent, because if they can’t they’ll be forced to squat, which will increase the probability they’ll continue to do more crimes (they already broke the law by squatting), so we do want people to rent to them.

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        If society wants to host convicted felons then society can pay for it.

        I’ll be more than willing to host them if I am guaranteed the refund of any and all damage they create, and the ability to remove them from my property whenever I want.

        In the meantime, as long as I’m on the hook for damages caused by a bad tenant and I don’t have the legal right to evict a bad tenant on a moment’s notice, then I will filter out convicted felons, and other risky tenants.

        It’s easy to say ‘you should do this thing’ when you have no skin in the game.