Some people will be miserable no matter who is running

  • Veneroso@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    What will the tankies use to justify not voting now?

    Probably her prosecution of Marijuana possession.

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        3 months ago

        It’s like politicians aren’t allowed to evolve on thier policies over time …

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          3 months ago

          I doubt Biden wasn’t going to stop Israel from annexing Palestine, either. Remember his “red line” they blew past? They’re basically equal on genocide, except for some words by Biden. With Kamala, I’m not sure yet, so she’s got that going for her.

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            She came out early in favor of a ceasefire. As VP, she is complicit, but she’s ultimately powerless to change it. As a result I don’t hold her responsible. I doubt that there will be much publically said, as Biden will be president until January 20th at Noon, but given her being a former prosecutor, she clearly respects the law. And I am going to assume international law, she’s a strong woman, and I feel that she’s not going to cowtow to Israel, in my opinion.

            Trump’s son in law, Jared Kushner has openly called for the opening of the Palestinian beaches and then a construction of a Trump Tower. You can call that equal if you want. Biden has been at least slowing offensive aid packages, Netanyahu is very upset and has been openly condemning it as Biden being pro Hamas. Imagine Biden, famed Zionist, being pro Hamas.

            https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/security-aviation/2024-06-27/ty-article/a-dizzying-pace-then-a-drop-how-u-s-arms-shipments-to-israel-slowed-down/00000190-59b6-dc65-abff-79bff9b10000

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            3 months ago

            Additionally, we know Trump’s position of the illegal settlements during Trump’s last administration.

            Look into Pompeo Doctrine. It’s the throwing out of the long-standing position that settlements are inconsistent with international law.

            If you are seriously still considering Biden and Trump equal on this after I have given you verification and the actual truth, then you aren’t worthy of further discussion and you aren’t arguing in good faith, either you are a Tankie or a Russian Troll or a bot.

            https://www.axios.com/2024/02/23/israel-settlements-blinken-pompeo-trump-illegal

            ссыкло

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              3 months ago

              Biden doesn’t care about the illegal settlements either. He says he does, but he hasn’t done anything to change the fact that they’re increasing, nor the facts on the ground in terms of settler violence. He put out a few sanctions on like 4 guys, ignoring all the others, and sanctioned one military unit, which is still getting money because of the billions of dollars we give the rest of their government. They need to sanction the whole government like they do Russia for Ukraine, or at least high up government officials or business leaders. Otherwise, it’s just for show, like shouting ACAB while arresting one bad cop, and then giving the rest of the corrupt department money, military vehicles, and promotions.

              Rhetorically, they say different things, sure, but in terms of how things affect Palestinians, they’re basically the same. Biden just wrings his hands and shakes his head more before giving Israel the weapons and money, while Trump high fives them. Either way the genocide progresses at the same rate. They can’t bomb them any faster without ruining the rest of the international cover they have, or ruining the land they want to take with nuclear radiation.