I want this further broken down by race

Gay men being men are by far the most difficult part of my queer journey

Would be nice to see the numbers for straight cis people as well. I mean, as a queer person, i can talk all day long about the genre of guy that’s the reactionary, bourgeoisified, transphobic, biphobic, acephobic, misogynist, racist, ableist cis gay man who wants to keep his hegemonial role in the community while pulling up the ladder in his defeatist assimilationism. I know guys like that, i’ve seen former friends become like this, they’re insufferable, there’s too many of them and this is a real problem for organizing in queer spaces, but i generally do not feel comfortable having that kind of converation with cishet dudes, in a similar way in which a black person would probably feel weird if i as a white woman got worked up about black assimilationists more than i get worked up about my racist former gay friend.

Firstly, most straight dudes don’t even remotely understand the context in which assimilationist queer people operate because they do not know what it’s like having to navigate a queerphobic society as a queer person and how easily queer people can take a wrong turn and try to demonstrate fealty to cishetnormativity instead of doing the reasonable thing of throwing bricks at it (this is also why i do not talk much about transmedicalism outside of trans spaces even though it’s one of my main red button issues within them). Secondly, the problem is that both from my personal experience and from similar polls, the number of shitheads is notably higher among the straights, even straight women, than among gay guys, and the number of people who do actual, meaningful trans allyship among the gay community is a lot higher. On a website full of cishet dudes with … let’s say with room to grow when it comes to views on gender issues and sexuality, there’s just a lot of potential for deflection here.

Not saying we should go soft on the dollar store Yiannopoulos kind of gay man, not saying a straight guy reading this shouldn’t push back against transphobic bs from a log cabin republican, but each of you knows ten times as many transphobic straight people than transphobic gay people, and if you wanna be an ally, you should focus on battling transphobia in your own back yard. Playing up gay and lesbian transphobia because it seems more credible and harder to attack is clearly a conservative tactic at this point, do not contribute to weaponizing idpol and platforming the Olly Londons and Kathleen Stocks of this world. They are fringe figures in our communities and to push them further to the fringe, we have to avoid giving them the engagement they’re supposed to get.

don’t really love the phrasing of this question. I don’t necessarily view transgender people positively because I don’t view transgender people as a monolith. I certainly don’t view Caitlyn Jenner or Ezra Miller positively, for example. a better question would be whether you view transgender people as their stated gender, or if you support trans rights

still I would answer yes if I had to answer this poll though

This is pretty sad.

Is there a reason to think this is a representative poll of some area or group in particular?

Raw data here: https://d3nkl3psvxxpe9.cloudfront.net/documents/YouGov_-__LG_B_and_T_perceptions_LGBTQplus_sample.pdf

sample group is 1,023 LGBTQ+ Britons age 16+

I have to assume that means the “heterosexual” category is either all hetero trans people or people who just lied to get into the survey for some reason?

Gay men, while they are gay, are unfortunately still men, and thus have all the baggage that comes with it.

The poll could be broken down a bit better. I believe in a similar one I saw, for example Bisexual Women were the most positive, where Bisexual men were just below Lesbian. Gay men lagging behind, but all were above Heterosexual men and women though.

Likewise I believe how people view trans men, trans women, non binary and other groups also fluctuates. Like there’s people with wildly different opinions on trans men versus trans women, versus people who do not fill a binary position.

this implies self-identifying bi men are probably a decent degree less reactionary than self-identifying gay men, and tbh that makes a lot of sense

i think most bi men are still in the closet, seeing it’s a lot easier to convince yourself and/or others you’re straight when you actually are into women. we also face a lot of unique issues, e.g. feeling seen as less desirable to women just for our attractions, feeling erased in broader society despite outnumbering gay people, and being stereotyped and invalidated even by other queer people

so i figure bi men who’d identify as bi in a survey tend to be better adjusted, have less prejudices, come from more progressive areas, etc., whereas DL or closeted bi men are often pretty insecure people unfortunately. meanwhile, being gay is usually a lot harder to repress, so a lot of the chuddy gays just come to terms with it at some point

I’m surprised lesbian isn’t more polarized

The question is a bit weird for what they are prob trying to measure - as default my predisposition to towards every human is negative & stays negative until indicated or proven otherwise (via ‘the getting to know someone’ process).

But I also try to not be a dick towards anyone, directly or indirectly.