Seeing the discussion about this get censored heavily was enlightening. The modlog had some of the best comments.
Imane Khelif is an intersex man that has the advantage of male puberty because he has XY chromosomes. He, like many intersex men, was born with ambiguous genitalia that looked like a vulva (but almost certainly didn’t have an actual female reproductive system). He was AFAB in the correct sense of the term, but is relying on incorrect paperwork to compete in women’s boxing.
Lemmy should be horrified at a dude punching women, not providing a smokescreen by saying “But Russia!”. The IBA had the tests done by independent labs that confirmed he is male, possibly with a DSD. They’re corrupt, but not in any way that affects this. If Khelif wants to prove them wrong and ensure that nobody ever believes the IBA ever again, he can get a simple cheek swab and show the world.
Sex is not hard. XY is male, XX is female. If something goes wrong with that, then you’re intersex. Leave women’s sports to women (XX). Intersex people can compete in men’s sports. Anything else is going to push women out of sports completely, because they have a biological disadvantage against men. If the Olympics doesn’t re-institute sex testing, we’re going to end up with “Men’s” and “Men with DSD” divisions.
I didn’t even spend this much time thinking about sex when I was fifteen.
Deflection doesn’t change that we all saw a man punching a woman and getting cheered for it
I can’t say what you saw, but I saw two female olympians fight.
What you saw, as independently verified by two different labs, is a man punching a woman.
I’ll believe the International Olympic Committee and its Paris Boxing Unit.
Then you’ll believe that it’s a DSD case? They had to correct a statement that they put out
They know he has a DSD and don’t care. You’ll also then believe that the entirety of their “checking” was “yup, his passport says female”?
I believe she is a female.
That’s fine. I’m atheist, and don’t subscribe to your religion, because I care about science.
Fuckin’ yikes, man. You really need to step away from the propaganda machines you’ve strapped yourself to and go out and touch some grass. You’re acting completely unhinged right now.
yeah you feel so strongly about this that you had to create an alt account because you’re embarrassed to have it associated with you
Why does it seem like everyone on your instance so… childish?
😂 yeah, I’m surrounded by weird religious children.
Owned. You should call them weird next.
Sex is not hard, to me, either:
Women who were born with a vagina and have never done anything to transition to male are women. Their chromosomes or testosterone levels may be too high to compete in combat sports due to it being an unfair advantage, but they are women.
As men with the same situation - born with a penis, never done anything to transition into women - they are men, still, even with an unfortunate disorder.
I think you should argue about why she has an unfair disadvantage because of ‘DSD’ (Development Sexual Disorder), but not talk about how she’s actually a man or anything.
Conservatives clapped & laughed when they went to a tribe in Africa and asked “Can a man have a vagina? Can a woman have a penis?” and the natives laughed at the very idea of it… But we are actually now saying “A woman with a vagina IS A MAN…!” Which is wild to me.
Addendum, this is fucked up
This is clearly gaslighting. Liberals are fucking up hard here and will drive people away.
I used to follow him on Facebook. I think Facebook will be a little better without him.
Dawkins’s a dick