• Murvel
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    3 months ago

    It’s the correct call

    • fr0g@piefed.social
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      3 months ago

      It’s not. Human rights are only human rights if they are universal and even criminals deserve to be protected from abuse and torture.

      Plus, it doesn’t actually solve anything. It just moves the problem elsewhere and will most likely have involved the German government directly giving money to the Taliban regime.

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        3 months ago

        True, but the world isn’t an idealist paradise, nor is it all black and white; compromises are a necessity, starting with the ones that least deserve leniency.

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          That does not justify sending people some place where theft is punished with amputation and nonconformity to extreme religious doctrine with death.

          Doing so anyway is causing unnecessary harm on behalf of bigoted xenophobes

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            3 months ago

            By this account, a literal majority of your compatriots are “bigoted xenophobes”.

            Perhaps it’s time to consider engaging with these people in good faith instead of with insults.

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              Well unfortunately the Overton window has shifted so far to the right that inhumane positions have become so normalized that indeed a majority of Germans have become bigoted xenophobes.

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                3 months ago

                Slightly tangential, but personally I have always found this word “humane” quite revealing. That is, it reveals more about the speaker’s wishfulness - and perhaps therefore their political orientation - than anything else.

                Humans are neither good nor bad. They are both, or neither. They are what they decide to be. These words “humane” and “inhumane” as synonyms of “good” and “bad” are pretty Orwellian.

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              3 months ago

              The opinion of my “compatriots” changes absolutely nothing on this.

              and I have zero problems with calling bigoted xenophobes bigoted xenophobes.

              you serm to have a problem calling them out as such when you just so happen to share their nationality (which, to be clear, doesn’t change their morality in any way, shape, or form). Why is that?