• CosmoNova@lemmy.world
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    10 days ago

    It’s ironic how strongly some old world cuisines cling to spicy food these days, considering Europeans introduced Asians and Africans to chili in the first place, bringing them all the way from the americas not so long ago. Suddenly, only when it feels like lava on your tongue can it be called authentic even though they lived thousands of years without chili on an otherwise very similar diet.

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      Several spices, roots, and herbs are native to those regions and have been used for centuries. Combinations of these spices can trigger similar nerve bundles that capsaicin from American peppers does (more easily)

      Sichuan peppercorns are native to china and have been used in their cuisine since at least the 16th century

      Ginger is native to maritime Southeast Asia and has been used in food for at least 5000 years since the early austroneaseans

      Wasabi is native to Japan and Eastern Russia and has been used in their cuisine since the 8th century AD

      Cassia cinnamon (hot cinnamon) is native to china. “True cinnamon” is native to Sri Lanka. Saigon cinnamon is native to Vietnam. All three have been imported from their native lands since at least 3000BC to Egypt and other African regions.

      Mustard is native to India originally cultivated by the Indus civilization in 2500 BC. It’s a relative of wasabi after all.

      Curry leaf from the curry tree is also native to India and Asia and has been part of their cuisine for millennia.

      Put all these ingredients in a stew with zero chilies and I guarantee it’s going to burn through the roof of your mouth, your tongue, and your lips all at the same time.

      Capsaicin is popular in modern versions of these dishes because it is cheap due to being easily cultivated and achieves spiciness without needing to cook the food for an entire day. But old world versions of many traditional dishes were still just as spicy.

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        10 days ago

        Point being their cuisine wasn’t nearly as spicy before because they didn’t drop copious amounts of cheaply available chilies into nearly every meal. A lot of those spices were nearly impossible to obtain in large amounts even in their native regions and aren’t as spicy to begin with.

    • fern@lemmy.autism.place
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      10 days ago

      The American chilis were a replacement for a local one, with the benefit that because there was more spice density could be stretched longer. Spicy wasn’t invented by American peppers.

      Often times, a new spice is simply surplanting a local not because the flavor wasnt there but because it was economically superior (you can stretch the same spice further)

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      It was just as spicy prior. Chili replaced the black pepper, still often used as whole peppercorn in many south indian restaurants and home kitchens.

      We’re pretty sick and tired of our history being rewritten to placate the feelings of white moderates.