• 【J】【u】【s】【t】【Z】@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Lol.

    No. The men that run these places want to live like it’s the year 800. They struggle because they govern by assassination and religious fiat. More power to them; world needs all types. Really just two rules, though: don’t try and export any of that bullshit or force it on anyone else, and at least, make a good faith effort to take care of the basic needs of the people: some public or subsidized utilities and infrastructure for food, water, and energy, some form of a healthcare system, and some system of law that’s at least capable of protecting human rights of the people, capable of policing corruption and conflicts of interest. Far right, extreme religious monarchies and dictatorships, have a real hard time with both rules; especially extremists don’t wear uniforms and who use women and kids as cannon fodder. If they can’t project any legitmate justice and peace to the territory they claim, and it gets overrun with armed religious psychopaths on a pan-national religious conquest, that’s fair game for military action.

    Like, it’s not trespassing to go onto your neighbor’s land, right up to the front door, break it down with an axe while screaming, and then blast everyone inside with water, if’n their house is on fire and spreading to yours. This is natural law, no?

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      2 months ago

      And there we have it folks. This is what actual evil looks like. Individuals like this one who dehumanize people all for being born less fortunate than them and using it to justify atrocities being committed. It’s legitimately sad and pathetic that people like this exist.

      • 【J】【u】【s】【t】【Z】@lemmy.world
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        2 months ago

        Blah blah blah everything I don’t like is evil.

        No, these are the evil people, violent religious extremists. Launching thousands of rockets a month indiscriminately at civilians. That’s the atrocity. Spending all that money on rockets while their own people are malnourished and uneducated because every every institution and natural resources was converted to instrumentalities of Iranian state-sponsored terrorism. Grow up.

        As long as the people don’t get killed by bombs, your fine with how they live their lives; no civil rights, no human rights, no legit legal system, no social safety nets, rule by assassination. Go over to to these places you are about so deeply and suggest they have an election. See if you don’t literally get stoned to death for infidelity to the word of an imaginary god. That’s evil.

        It’s not millions of people living and dying, generation after generation, knowing nothing but hopelessness and anger, wrought on them by their own deranged leadership, and their own deranged world view. That, you’e fine with continuing, just as long as you don’t have to see it in the news. I think that makes you not just evil, but also ignorant and shortsighted. Childish really.

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          2 months ago

          Loving your convenient oversight of why people are in that position to begin with. It’s not like every relevant expert and organization calls Palestine the largest open air prison and likens it to the treatment of the Jews by Nazi Germany. But no, it’s their fault that they had their entire lives ripped from them by foreigners, and all their wealth is taken and controlled as well. It’s definitely their fault that almost half of the Palestinians are younger than 18 and not because the older ones keep dying from a corrupt government with no oversight.

          The best part is that when I actually addressed all your points and showed you how wrong you are, you just resorted to generalizations and racism to endorse the ongoing genocide. You couldn’t even prove I’m wrong.

          All this, and I’m evil and childish. Get a life.

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            2 months ago

            Not every relevant expert says that. So…shows how much you know. No surprised that you’ve misunderstood by arguments as racism. Ideologicalism, maybe, and so what?

            Comparisons to Nazi Germany are idiotic. How far did you go in school?

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              2 months ago

              I went pretty far in school thanks for asking. Landed a nice stable job in a good career.

              I’d like to point out once again that you failed to address any of my points directly and just resorted to generalizations and attacks on me in an attempt to discredit me rather than prove any of your points. There’s clearly no actual point to discuss anything with you since you don’t seem to be interested in that.