• HamsterRage@lemmy.ca
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    17
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    edit-2
    9 hours ago

    There’s a bit of “No True Scotsman”, going on here I think. You cannot deny what we all see every day, Evangelicals working every day to suppress LGBTQ and women’s rights. That’s what they do, that’s what they are.

    [Edit for typo]

    • Sotuanduso
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      arrow-down
      7
      ·
      9 hours ago

      No True Scotsman is a tricky one here. In the original, it works because strictly speaking, a Scotsman is just anyone who lives in Scotland, so you can’t prescribe additional requirements to it. As for Christianity, I feel the term should be limited to those who actually follow the Bible, but in general use it’s just anyone who chooses to call themselves that. I’d love to have a separate term for those who follow the Bible so we can avoid this problem, but if it catches on, the grifters would start calling themselves that too.

      In any case, the Bible is the rulebook for Christianity, and calling yourself a Christian implies that you believe it, so I think that it’s fair to say a true Christian is one who follows the Bible. But then, the Scottish law is the rulebook for Scotland. Though calling yourself a Scotsman doesn’t necessarily imply that you’re not a criminal, that’s just the default assumption for everyone (barring racism and other prejudices.)

      • HamsterRage@lemmy.ca
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        9
        ·
        9 hours ago

        You’re not going to split hairs out of this one. Trying to say that these are not Evangelicals because no true Evangelical would do this is pretty much the "No True Scotsman " evasion. When people say, “Evangelicals”, this is exactly the group to which they are referring.

        The one or two “True Evangelicals” in the US can consider themselves exempt from this thread.

      • ShareMySims@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        7
        ·
        9 hours ago

        I think that it’s fair to say a true Christian is one who follows the Bible.

        And I think you could waste your entire life looking for a single person that fits your arbitrary definition of what a true Christian is.

        All you’re doing here is trying to carve yourself out a comfortable little niche where you can hide and pretend that the criticisms against Christianity as an institution don’t apply to you, because that’s easier than honestly examining your belief system.