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      11 hours ago

      Mostly people who defend far-right aggression and pretend their stances are “leftist” getting upset when they get called out on their bullshit.

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        9 hours ago

        Are the “far-right agression” defenders in the room right now? What imaginary enemy have you concocted?

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          8 hours ago

          Are you saying there aren’t people who defend aggressive actions by far-right politicians? That there aren’t people who defend Netanyahu, Putin and Trump?

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              7 hours ago

              Are you saying there’s nobody who defends all three and claims to be a leftist? Because that I’d say I’ve never seen. But I’ve certainly seen various accounts claiming to be leftists and defending one or two of them.

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                What do you consider “defending?” No Leftist I have ever seen likes Putin, Trump, or Netanyahu, which means either you have an interesting idea of what “defending” means or you are yet another “left” anticommunist.

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            11 hours ago

            I’m fine with communists. My economical political views could be considered communist, too

            Calling Communists “tankies” makes me doubt this.

            But tankies defending russian wars of aggression, relativizing Stalin and labeling every political view they don’t like as liberals is just annoying.

            Can you provide specific examples?

            And while not every user on hexbear or lemmy.ee is a tankie, most tankies you see are on these instances.

            What is a “tankie” to you? All Marxist-Leninists? Defenders of AES?

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                10 hours ago

                Where did I do this? Why do you just “doubt” based on something that never happened?

                You literally did at the beginning of this comment chain. The idea of a Communist calling other Communists “tankies” is a bit silly.

                You yourself. You said Stalin was no dictator. You lumped conservatives with liberals together.

                Stalin wasn’t a dictator according to the CIA itself. If using historical evidence and proper analysis makes me a “tankie,” then sure. Conservatives are a type of liberal as well, yes.

                Authoritarians calling themselves communists or socialists. Online, in discussions, this usually is expressed by relativizing oppressive regimes that call themselves communist or socialist, like China or USSR. Like you do.

                The PRC is Socialist, and the USSR was Socialist. I don’t see how anyone labeling themselves a Socialist or a Communist could genuinely believe otherwise unless they haven’t read theory. Would you mind explaining? According to you, authoritarians are just Communists who have actually read Marx, Engels, Lenin, etc.

                Why do you think I generalize? Projection? In this very thread I made very clear I don’t generalize.

                You’re all over the place, you denounce AES yet call yourself a Communist, you call Communists tankies, it’s all very weird.

                I can make recommendations for a basic theory reading list if you want.

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            8 hours ago

            Honestly I’m more worried about those who claim to be communists but do things that both go against the tenets of communism and make other communists look bad. Tankies are a subset of that.

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              Elaborate, what is this “tankie” and what do they do that “goes against the tenets of Communism.”

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                  I think you’re yet another “left” anticommunist that hasn’t read a word of theory, yet thinks reading wikipedia makes them an authority on Marxism. Hope I’m wrong!