As a medical user, I really hope she will stick to this if elected. Trump is doing more “leave it up to the states” bullshit except specifically for Florida and no other state.

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    I mean, this won Trudeau 3 elections, so I’d say it’s a worth it campaigning point.

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    Best way to get the young male vote to be honest. Isn’t this part of what made Ron Paul popular?

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      Ron Paul wass popular becausue of his racist newsletter back in the 80’s. Everything else was just whitewash.

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        Ron Paul wasn’t popular because of a racist newsletter. He was popular because the libertarian ideals he espoused were appealing to internet dwellers that hadn’t experienced real life yet.

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    I love how it’s a bit of a stretch to back legalising a substance which has become legal in a fair number of states without any issue (that I’m aware of).

    How many elections before a candidate is praised for saying something like, “I, unlike the others, am prepared to accept that the populace generally believes that vegetables are part of a healthy diet?”, because we live in a world where the vast majority of candidates are just saying any old stupid shit that is viral on social media.

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      I think 40 states have medical and 25 have recreational. It’s insane that it’s even a question about federal legalization at this point.

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      Those states still have dispensaries and grow operations raided all the time, putting people who work at them at risk. There’s also the fact that people like me, who need it for medical use, are breaking both state and federal law by going from Indiana to Illinois to buy it. It could potentially put me in federal prison (probably not, but that is the way things stand legally).

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        The only way I can explain such stupidity is by assuming malice, e.g.: “We must put endless fear into the poor people. Our decisions are moral, theirs are not.”

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          And because of that possibility for malice, it needs to be federally legal.

          Cops should not be given tools of oppression.

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              So you don’t give them ways to make it worse for people.

              If there was a law allowing cops to drone bomb places where they decided criminal activity was occurring, I would assume you would want that law gone.

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    It would’ve been cool if she said this when she was actively putting people in cages for weed.

    It would’ve been cool if she said this for the past 4 years while she was VP.

    Now she’s saying it for an election. I’m sure she’s legit this time. lol.

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      How dare someone change their mind! We should definitely teach her a lesson she won’t forget and be amongst the 3000 people who who vote for Cornel West in November!

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        How can you make the claim that she changed her mind? Believe actions not words regardless of who it’s coming from.

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          Actions she can’t take until after January 20th? How do you expect people to do that? Or are you really trying to claim that since she hasn’t issued a public apology, she’s definitely lying and hasn’t changed her mind?

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        If a politician actually changes their mind that’s fine. If they change their mind to become pro-cannabis legalization, that’s great.

        But they shouldnt try to gaslight the populace into believing that this was their stance all along.

        If this was Kamala’s position all along, then her actions as District Attorney are very hypocritical.

        If she actually had a change of heart, she should apologize to the nonviolent victims she chose to prosecute and incarcerate.

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          Or you could not let the perfect be the enemy of the good and celebrate a candidate advocating for legalization.

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    TBF, “Leave it up to the states” in the context of recreational use is appropriate here. Extending that concept would necessarily include having extremely limited federal regulation, if any at all.

    Medical use, in my opinion, should be federally protected, such that you can acquire medical use cannabis for a uniform set of medical purposes in all states.

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      100% disagree. First because it puts people in prison for spurious reasons and secondly because it’s a plant. You can literally just grow it in your back yard. And it will grow really easily. It doesn’t even take work.

      You know what will totally fuck you up but is totally legal to own and grow and use? Salvia divinorum. You know what else? San Pedro cactus.

      Even with shrooms, it’s legal to own the spores when you’re talking about psilocybin and Amanita Muscaria is 100% legal. It can literally kill you.

      We don’t even need to go into tobacco.

      How does any of that make sense?

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        All these drugs you cite as negative examples have a really good safety profile. So no idea why you do that.

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          1. I didn’t cite them as negative examples.
          2. Amanita muscaria can, as I said, kill you.
          3. Let’s see tobacco’s good safety profile.
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            I agree on tobacco, maybe some DIY type of vaping is OK.

            The rest is fine and if you consume any of these plants like fly agaric then you just have to know what you are doing.

            Compared to alcohol anamita muscaria may have a better profile.

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        You know what will totally fuck you up but is totally legal to own and grow and use? Salvia divinorum.

        Salvia is fucking wild. I do not recommend it unless you want to lose your mind for ~10 minutes or so. Like, from sober to “holy shit I’m on the wheel of fortune right now” in an instant.

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          I only did it once. Apart from tasting absolutely horrible, the trip wasn’t even fun. I was laying on the ground and suddenly I was standing upright and was a cowboy leaning against the porch post of a ranch house. And then I was me again. What was the point?

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        Oh I didn’t say it made sense, especially in comparison to other legally produced intoxicants. If things made sense, we wouldn’t have gestures widely.

        But in the nonsensical paradigm, relegating the legal status of a recreational drug to the state level would be appropriate, and most certainly a step in the right direction. More to the point, I don’t see it being possible for the federal government to command nationwide legality of recreational cannabis. This is why I made a separate statement about medical use.

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          The federal government doesn’t need to command that though. They can say that it is federally legal but still allow individual states or smaller governmental divisions to make it illegal. That’s not how it should be, but that is how it works with alcohol, which is why there are dry counties and why Utah can regulate the amount of alcohol in its beer and wine.

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            That’s kind of what I was saying. Recreational cannabis would be appropriately handled just like that, while preserving the right of all Americans to receive certain kinds of medical care (Roe) should be federally guaranteed, regardless of what state you live in.

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      I mean I would appreciate it if it were federally legal. I live in a state where its legal but I’m employed by the federal government so I can’t use it without putting my job at risk.