I do not think you entirely understood what I was trying to convey, be it from misunderstanding on your part or poor phrasing on my part I am unsure, because my argument isnt for non-action nor is it for tolerance of hate. My last statement there was a statement that one doing reporting should be open about what one’s biases are, which is advocating for taking a specific action, not for doing nothing. The topic of hate didnt even come up in my response really, but that is partially because, I view it as a case where bias is desirable (in the sense that intolerance is in my view morally undesirable, and so portraying it in a bad light in the hopes of limiting its spread in society is a good thing. That in itself represents a bias, one against intolerant views, which is fine as bias is not a synonym for “bad” nor one for “incorrect”, merely for favoring a side in something. If the side one is favoring is actually correct in that thing, then presenting that argument in a way that favors that side is actually more accurate than presenting the argument entirely neutrally, despite being biased). All my response there was really saying is that given fallibility of our ability to determine what is true, it is preferable for organizations seeking to inform others to state what side they are taking, rather than attempt not to have a side and inevitably fail in doing so while still presenting themselves to others with the false sense of impartial objective accuracy that would come from believing that claim.
Well put. Thank you for the clarity. I appreciate your effort towards elucidation.
I agree there has to be a neutral as possible position if only to teach. Finding that balance has, for the past 4 decades at least, been an impossibility, due to politics, forcing us to graduate students with absolute no sense of recent history or the current world they are being thrust into. I harbored anger over this at least til the end of my 20s, and I wasn’t the typical student. I have read the newspaper front to back daily since the start of my junior year (or since I was 16). I had read a dozen Chomsky books and Professor Zinn on my own in high school. I knew exactly how the educational system had failed us. I was so upset by the seemingly entire collection fo adults in the country failing to agree on what actually transpired in recent history that I started reading philosophy for an example of what great humans could be capable of, because there were clearly none in DC during the Clinton presidency.
I still contend that there is a large amount of fact that is discernible, that journalists used to rigorously parse thru. It’s not for my knowledge that I’m concerned, it’s the normalization of news-cycle theatre that concerns me. Case in point. Trumps assassination attempt. The fuck his ear got hit. Anyone who has ever shot an AR-15 will tell you that he wouldn’t have an ear left, even if it was just a graze, let alone be walking around with a normally “healed” ear less than two weeks later. It was staged and it cost that fireman his life and somehow everyone just moves on believing what they want. All for a photo op.
No 80 year old on this planet is going to heal a bruise that fast, anywhere on their body.
Regardless. I think we understand each other. Cheers.
I do not think you entirely understood what I was trying to convey, be it from misunderstanding on your part or poor phrasing on my part I am unsure, because my argument isnt for non-action nor is it for tolerance of hate. My last statement there was a statement that one doing reporting should be open about what one’s biases are, which is advocating for taking a specific action, not for doing nothing. The topic of hate didnt even come up in my response really, but that is partially because, I view it as a case where bias is desirable (in the sense that intolerance is in my view morally undesirable, and so portraying it in a bad light in the hopes of limiting its spread in society is a good thing. That in itself represents a bias, one against intolerant views, which is fine as bias is not a synonym for “bad” nor one for “incorrect”, merely for favoring a side in something. If the side one is favoring is actually correct in that thing, then presenting that argument in a way that favors that side is actually more accurate than presenting the argument entirely neutrally, despite being biased). All my response there was really saying is that given fallibility of our ability to determine what is true, it is preferable for organizations seeking to inform others to state what side they are taking, rather than attempt not to have a side and inevitably fail in doing so while still presenting themselves to others with the false sense of impartial objective accuracy that would come from believing that claim.
Well put. Thank you for the clarity. I appreciate your effort towards elucidation.
I agree there has to be a neutral as possible position if only to teach. Finding that balance has, for the past 4 decades at least, been an impossibility, due to politics, forcing us to graduate students with absolute no sense of recent history or the current world they are being thrust into. I harbored anger over this at least til the end of my 20s, and I wasn’t the typical student. I have read the newspaper front to back daily since the start of my junior year (or since I was 16). I had read a dozen Chomsky books and Professor Zinn on my own in high school. I knew exactly how the educational system had failed us. I was so upset by the seemingly entire collection fo adults in the country failing to agree on what actually transpired in recent history that I started reading philosophy for an example of what great humans could be capable of, because there were clearly none in DC during the Clinton presidency.
I still contend that there is a large amount of fact that is discernible, that journalists used to rigorously parse thru. It’s not for my knowledge that I’m concerned, it’s the normalization of news-cycle theatre that concerns me. Case in point. Trumps assassination attempt. The fuck his ear got hit. Anyone who has ever shot an AR-15 will tell you that he wouldn’t have an ear left, even if it was just a graze, let alone be walking around with a normally “healed” ear less than two weeks later. It was staged and it cost that fireman his life and somehow everyone just moves on believing what they want. All for a photo op.
No 80 year old on this planet is going to heal a bruise that fast, anywhere on their body.
Regardless. I think we understand each other. Cheers.