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Xiaomi can suck my balls, the very first automatic updates they force on a new phone is the stuff that sticks advertise EVERY. FUCKING. WHERE. Gallery? Have some ads. Settings? Get yo ads! Calculator? ADS ADS ADS! I can’t tell whether they’re on par or worse than Samsung with stupid bloat, data harvesting and ads everywhere. The fucking phones are also infuriatingly condescending, treating you like a dumb toddler, showing warnings about “daaaaangeroooooooous” actions you might be doing and putting 30s timers before you can hit “LET ME FUCKING CONTINUE”
Unlocking the bootloader is such a hassle, too, I gave up and used ADB Bridge to uninstall some of the bloatware to make my experience less insufferable.
ASUS did this recently & lost a lawsuit in the UK for lying to customers to say unlock servers were only temporarily down for a couple months (lol)
Glad I didn’t buy a zenfone, looked like a great option but that sucks
I had it in my cart & went to double-check nothing changed about unlocking… happy I took a step back
It is wretched that you have to maintain constant vigilance on this bullshit, though.
Remember when phones just came unlocked out of the box? You could just flash whatever you wanted on day 1 and without any data loss
Another words they want to harvest your data
Anyway I am still rocking a 2019 phone with Lineage OS and it works pretty well. Used phones are where its at these days. Hold on to your working device until it dies.
Still got my phone from 2020, I really like the phone but the software is creaking, even the custom ROM I moved to is now discontinued and no Lineage available.
I looked at porting something myself but it is … not trivial to say the least.
Just feels frustrating that the phone still works fine but is gradually losing functionality and I can’t update it. Also ngl I really miss having contactless payments. I’ve tried all the fixes I can find online with no success.
sad as fuck if true. i really liked xiaomi.
Cool.
My country has limited choice in phone OEMs. Soon the only unlockable choice will be Motorola.
And when they too stop allowing it, I guess I can go fuck myself🖕The hell is the point of putting more powerful silicon in the damn things if they’ll just keep restricting what you can do with them more and more each year?
I fucking hate tech companies, man.
Member back when you used to be optimistic about the upcoming innovation? Now the only “innovation” is enshitification.
Exactly
The point of more power technology is to easily control their users more. The days of having “open” phones died with Nexus
I’m fragmenting my devices more and more.
I recently bought a cheap mp3 player, quit streaming, found new piracy routes for music, back to basics. Still use Spotify for browsing and finding new bands. All good.
I use a kindle and read ebooks a lot.
At the rate phones are going, I’ll have a digital camera and a dumb phone soon.
They have already practically ended it. The official process makes the user jump through so many hoops - registering account, using it for 30 days (!!!), installing their app, begging for unlock through it, getting random errors which the official support refuses to explain (!!!) and only after that having the chance to try to hit the daily unlock request window which lasts less than one minute each day (!!!) - that it is practically non existent. Fuck the fucking fuckers.
having the chance to try to hit the daily unlock request window which lasts less than one minute each day (!!!)
Holy shit, are you serious? Can you elaborate on how does that work? You get an email saying you can do that between 3:27:15 PM and 3:27:50 PM or something?
No, it’s the same minute every day, for everyone in the world. 0:00 GMT+8
GMT is subject to DST. You sure it isn’t UTC?
Well this is how the app states it. It resolves to this: https://www.wolframalpha.com/input?i=0%3A00+GMT%2B8
I don’t think the GMT time zone ever changes. Some countries going in and out of GMT but the GMT hour never changes forwards or backwards
We do, twice a year and it annoys me no end since I work some shitty continental hours and sometimes have to watch the clock go backwards through the night.
Oh, ok. Still crazy though.
Return it
Unfortunately not easy in my country - only for repeated warranty claims.
What a shame. I don’t get why they would do that. Didn’t I pay for the phone?
That’s the problem. You paid only once. The companies want you to pay indefinitely. And if they control your OS, well, they can shove ads or broatware into your face all they wish gaining more revenue.
Okay. I’m not buying it then
Not to mention both phones and TVs are crazy expensive to manufacturer. They can’t effectively sell a device at a reasonable price so they make it cheaper and make up for it elsewhere
There is money to be had
It was a matter of time. We really need a good(or at least better) company to step up and make a phone. A framework phone would be fire but its gonna take years if they wanna fo it.
Motorola is pretty good or at least my current older device is solid
Sony still welcomes unlocking without anything special—you get a headphone jack & microSD too.
The official process was a pain anyway, as it required sending personal identification data to China. Anyone that wants a custom ROM on their phone should be looking elsewhere, although I don’t know of any brand that makes that process easy anymore
although I don’t know of any brand that makes that process easy anymore
https://github.com/melontini/bootloader-unlock-wall-of-shame#ℹ️-safe-for-now-trollface
My Fairphone 5 was easy to unlock.
Well, Pixel still unlocks freely.
Assuming you dont get the phone through your carrier
can we use Google Wallet to tap pay with an unlocked bootloader?
I do with my Pixel 7 Pro. You need Magisk + Play Integrity Fix by Chiteroman at the moment.
yeah, on previous phones I played cat-and-mouse with magisk and all kind of patch to have Wallet work, but it breaks every 2 or 3 weeks and you have to chase down how to re-fix it…
It’s slightly more reliable right now, but for sure, it’s going to be cat-and-mouse for awhile at least. Google is phasing out legacy Play Integrity checks, and while it looked like there was no future for workarounds after they deprecated legacy methods, now at least it looks like the community has replicated a functional full keybox attestation chain so there’s hope we can continue to workaround indefinitely into the future.
So yes, while you don’t need to program your own solution and can just - in the end - install a pre-built fix still, it takes attention to keep up. If the above all sounds like gibberish, it’s a good indication of the level of commitment you have to have to keep up with it. For me, it’s worth it, but definitely understand, it gets tiresome.
Pixel devices are trivially easy to unlock
Pixel or OnePlus
OnePlus phones have green lines on screen and damaging motherboard issues.
Heard about this too I believe this was mostly an issue in India because of their slightly different models?
I’ve had the OnePlus 6 and the OnePlus Nord N200 and I’ve not seen those things occur but thanks for the information.
Those are prehistoric phones in no way relevant to this discussion
The nord n200 is 2021
Agreed, the official process was a massive pain and borderline non functional.
So far I couldn’t unlock the bootloader because whenever I add a number it tells me to try again tomorrow
The source on this is one guy from X (formerly Twitter), from Vietnam.
I mean, it sound plausible and expected, but it’s not some official news.
If that’s true, the temperature in the frog’s pan goes up a little more… soon, we will lose all freedom in the mobile world :(
Perhaps for the best, the sooner we stop using those pieces of shit, the sooner we’ll regain a bit of control of our own lives
i miss the early 2010s
The real goal that the community should be working on is to strengthen the political efforts to give people the rights to do whatever they want with phones they PURCHASE, and prohibit manufacturers from locking them down so the OWNER can’t make any changes. I would totally accept that it voids the warranty because they can’t cover all the bricked devices that result from reckless modding… but there should not be allowed any barriers between the OWNER and the software within.
And the reason for my emphasis of certain words is that the corporate world is really truly beginning to indulge the delusion that nobody ever owns anything and that purchases consumers make are merely the manufacturer granting them the privilege of indefinite loan. It all needs to stop hard and now.
My current phone is an F5. One of my worst Android experiences has been this phone before I put a different ROM. Never would buy another one without being able to unlock the bootloader.
