Are people who bought Teslas, some probably for laudable climate ends, now disgusted to drive their car every day? Or are people still buying them and it’s not yet hit home where their dollars are going…or other? Are people selling them due to political reasons now?

  • givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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    13 hours ago

    Yeah. Buying a 10 year old civic will always be more environmentally responsible than buying a brand new EV

    For some reason all these people that super care about the environment aren’t doing that tho…

    Although by now I guess that’s really “10 year old Prius”

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      8 hours ago

      Not really though…

      Even in places where electricity is made with coal it doesn’t take that much mileage before your environmental impact becomes less than a gas car traveling the same distance and as time goes the gap in emissions just becomes wider and wider and wider. By buying the used Civic you’re taking the emissions from the car being produced out of the equation, but you’re still burning gas.

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      Yeah. Buying a 10 year old civic will always be more environmentally responsible than buying a brand new EV. For some reason all these people that super care about the environment aren’t doing that tho…

      I can’t fuel the 10 year old civic from the solar panels on my roof.

      Although by now I guess that’s really “10 year old Prius”

      I sold my 13 year old Prius to get the EV. If I hadn’t sold the Prius then that would be one less person would could follow your advice to buy an old Prius.

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      12 hours ago

      We bought Teslas six years ago. (Why we had to replace two cars in short order is a story for another day.) We did it at least in part because we were “voting with our wallets,” meaning we were trying to signal in our small way to the automotive industry that we wanted EVs.

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      People are going to buy new cars regardless. A used car market doesn’t make sense without someone buying new cars because eventually you run out of used cars. People are voting with their dollar for something more economical and efficient. Sure, you can call them out for still buying new, but buying used is further incentivizes people to buy new cars knowing the resale value will offset the expense. We’re all stuck paying into new car production.

      We might be getting out of the civic slump. Late 00s civics were not the cars to get. Maybe 2014 is out of the bad gneeration. If you picture a 1994 civic when I say “10 year old civic” I have some bad, bad news. A 2nd gen prius is a good buy. The EV market has cut into the prius used market and gas prices are low again so prices are down. Battery replacement isn’t atrocious.

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      12 hours ago

      Buying a 10 year old civic will always be more environmentally responsible than buying a brand new EV

      I hear so few people talking about this fact. The middle and upper class don’t want to hear about any solution unless it involves buying status symbols.

      Proving you’re morally superior to the poors is definitely the most important part of combating climate change.

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        People don’t talk about it because it’s not true.

        EV cars emit more to produce but they catch up the difference very quickly even if the electricity they use comes from coal generators. Gas cars total emissions keep increasing over time.

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        10 hours ago

        I got a used Nissan Leaf (that was one year old, so people didn’t realize it was used). Everyone was constantly telling me that I should have bought used because the lithium for a new battery is worse than anything else in the world. When I told them it was used, they either said I should have gotten an older one, or they just stopped talking about it.