• Sundial
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    28
    arrow-down
    4
    ·
    edit-2
    16 hours ago

    It won’t. The Arabs are too angry. Minnesota literally has a Palestinian who lost 42 family members in a single airstrike by Israel and then their governor goes on a VP debate for election and the only thing he can say about the conflict is that he supports Israel’s right for expansion.

    • Keeponstalin@lemmy.worldOP
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      21
      arrow-down
      3
      ·
      16 hours ago

      Yet I still see so many people blaming the voters who want an alternative to genocide, instead of the policies of the administration that give it unconditional military support.

      Harris can easily earn so many votes, especially in swing states that she needs to win, with a pivot on Biden’s unpopular foreign policy on Israel. This race should not be this close. Trump is a uniquely unpopular candidate, to the extent that even two assassination attempts didn’t even move his approval rating.

      • Samvega@lemmy.blahaj.zone
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        12
        arrow-down
        8
        ·
        edit-2
        16 hours ago

        Yet I still see so many people blaming the voters who want an alternative to genocide

        Yes, and I don’t care about the opinions of such people any longer. They process the harms being done in the world into a sense of entitlement that everyone should deal with that in the way they do, which is principally by finding a way to rationalise those harms as inevitable.

        Too many humans are going to keep killing other living beings, and then putting effort into rationalising how this is a good thing. In my lifetime we are going to see more of anthropogenic climate change killing people, and those who (think they) have profited from such climate change rationalising how ‘this is good because…’, or ‘they deserved it because…’.

        In a world where immigrants (like myself) are treated with contempt, people who didn’t migrate from countries where climate change is deadly will be laughed at.

        Fix that and I will care about political decisions. Until then, I remain unconvinced that pretending that we can maintain a status quo by just pandering to the right-wing enough is of any particular value.

        Do you know what’s more important than profit? Life. I’d take fewer dead babies over arms merchants making money selling the means to kill more innocent people.

        • Keeponstalin@lemmy.worldOP
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          13
          arrow-down
          2
          ·
          15 hours ago

          Martin Luther King Jr’s speech on Vietnam rang very true when I read it recently. It put me back about how similar today is to nearly 60 years ago.

          It is with such activity in mind that the words of the late John F. Kennedy come back to haunt us. Five years ago he said, “Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.” Increasingly, by choice or by accident, this is the role our nation has taken, the role of those who make peaceful revolution impossible by refusing to give up the privileges and the pleasures that come from the immense profits of overseas investments. I am convinced that if we are to get on the right side of the world revolution, we as a nation must undergo a radical revolution of values. We must rapidly begin…we must rapidly begin the shift from a thing-oriented society to a person-oriented society. When machines and computers, profit motives and property rights, are considered more important than people, the giant triplets of racism, extreme materialism, and militarism are incapable of being conquered.

          https://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/mlkatimetobreaksilence.htm

        • Sundial
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          7
          arrow-down
          4
          ·
          15 hours ago

          Yes, and I don’t care about the opinions of such people any longer. They process the harms being done in the world into a sense of entitlement that everyone should deal with that in the way they do, which is principally by finding a way to rationalise those harms as inevitable.

          I don’t think Arabs in America care anymore. This past year has made it very evident US politicians don’t actually care about human rights or the lives of Arabs all too much. They’re just numb to it all.

    • Samvega@lemmy.blahaj.zone
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      13
      arrow-down
      3
      ·
      edit-2
      15 hours ago

      he supports Israel’s right for expansion.

      Israel seems to expand into areas they don’t control, breaking international law. And, while doing so, they bring settler violence (backed by the IDF) against innocent people, including children.

      What ‘right’ is that? Would I have the ‘right’ to expand into my neighbour’s home if I was backed by a large number of people with guns?

      I can understand a ‘might makes right’ sense of morality after societal collapse, because living beings are constrained by an inadequate sense of perception tied to the illusion of an enduring consciousness that prejudices them in favour of their survival. It’s concerning that we are practising these skills while society appears to be functioning to some extent, as if many people are excited about living in a post-apocalyptic world and are in training for dealing with it by swapping the lives of strangers for whatever imagined gain they think they will experience.

      • meowMix2525
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        4 hours ago

        lol @ “right to defend themselves” somehow turning into “right for expansion” like they could just slip that by and no one would notice.