Big Bang Theory is a terrible show.

It’s not because of “nerd blackface.” Fuck you :reddit-logo: for making that the presumed reason for anyone to dislike that show.

It’s a misogynistic, cryptoracist, ignorantly ableist (setting back public understanding of autism by years) and lowkey homophobic unfunny mess that is written like the script was printed on plastic sheets made from melted down Funko Pops. Also, the :my-hero: worship is insufferable.

:WeAreNotTheSame:

  • Zuzak [fae/faer, she/her]@hexbear.net
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    I believe that a person’s gender and sexuality can be influenced by external factors and are not fully determined at birth. The fact that “conversion therapy” exists and doesn’t work makes this a controversial take. But conversion therapy is literally just abuse, it’s like saying, “A bunch of idiots tried hitting gay people with sticks to make them be straight and it didn’t work, this is proof that sexuality is purely innate.” That’s not proof, that’s just a way to get the idiots to stop hitting us with sticks, and while there are idiots with sticks around, it’s very reasonable to be touchy about this.

    But gender is a social construct, so how is it possible that a newborn infant who has had no exposure to society already has a particular social construct that they identify and one or more social constructs that they will inevitably be attracted to once they grow up? Also, we can clearly observe standards of beauty changing over time and across different cultures. Of course the standards of the culture that you’re raised in will influence what traits you find attractive, and it feels arbitrary to draw a line at gender. But these are general trends and the ways in which an individual relates to the dominant culture they’re raised in are complex and varied. Maybe someday, once all the idiots with sticks have been gulag’d, people (ideally queer people) can study this sort of thing from a descriptivist, sociological perspective, with the rights and validity of queer people viewed completely as a given.

    Until then, the discourse is dragged down to chud level and the priority is saying whatever it takes to get them to put down the fucking stick.

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      2 years ago

      also the “queer stuff is ok because it’s natural and we don’t have a choice” is fallacious thinking. some serial killers probably don’t have a choice in theirnature but that doesn’t make murder acceptable.

      But gender is a social construct, so how is it possible that a newborn infant who has had no exposure to society already has a particular social construct that they identify

      the social constructs of gender might be a labelling system for a mental component of what we categorize as biological sex; that would exist in humans who were raised by wolves or aliens or whatever and didn’t receive the signs and signifiers. Some nonbinary genders are very old in some cultures but some of the ideas for specific subsets of nonbinary are of recent coinage and there are surely long-dead humans who would’ve identified with xenogenders or any yet-to-be-delineated terminology if only they had the words to describe themselves at the time. like how there were always ace people even though societies didn’t necessarily recognize them on the same footing as the allo orientations.

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    2 years ago

    Whenever they don’t like bad media because it got “woke”. I hate Disney remakes because they suck shit and are emblematic of our seemingly collective inability to move past nostalgia, and their really weird obsession with making old cartoons realistic, not because they did some feminism or whatever.

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    That the CIA is evil. Libs might try to pretend it’s conspiracy nonsense or might even try to defend the CIA. In my experience, if you start talking about real CIA conspiracies around chuds, though, they get into it. The tough part I guess is convincing them that Republicans including Trump are complicit in those same evil deeds.

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      The tough part I guess is convincing them that Republicans including Trump are complicit in those same evil deeds.

      The real problem with this kind of person is that they refuse to accept that this is just what America always was. The freedoms that it was ostensibly founded on were only ever actually supposed to be for it’s most wealthy & established participants.

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        Yep. I agree 100%. Chuds have a deep emotional attachment to a fantasy of America that has only ever existed in their heads. Breaking this fantasy, which is such a key part of their identity and how they see the world, would be very difficult.

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    If I ever find myself agreeing with a chud, and it does happen, that leads me to a serious period of self criticism. I see liberals too often say that fascists are agreeable and I never see liberals criticize themselves for agreeing with fascists. You hear liberals say lines like “Hitler rose to power because he told the truth sometimes”. Liberals will hear a fascist say something they agree with and then think that they need to hear what else the fascist has to say. The correct response to agreeing with chuds is self criticism.

    In some cases that I have found myself agreeing with chuds in the past, it was because I was mistakenly being reactionary. We live in a reactionary society. It is very easy to be reactionary mistakenly without recognizing it. Finding yourself agreeing with chuds is an easy indicator that you are being mistakenly reactionary. Self criticism is important.

    That is not to say that every time a chud agrees with you that you have reactionary beliefs. Broken clocks are sometimes correct. In the circumstance where you are not being reactionary and a chud happens to agree with you, self criticism won’t hurt you.

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    2 years ago

    It’s not because of “nerd blackface.”

    that’s an inflammatory name for the idea but they are gross caricatures.

    you all fucking forgot as soon as the iron man movie was big but the MCU ain’t paying for my therapy and none of the antibullying shit at school ever accomplished anything.

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      2 years ago

      I can feel that a little. It kinda makes me mad how freely people these days could put anime decals on their cars when I was bullied for liking it as a kid