• SpaceDogs@lemmygrad.ml
    1·
    47 minutes ago

    Well… dems on Twitter are salivating over a completely flattened Gaza as revenge for their loss. Very cool…

  • LVL@lemmygrad.ml
    2·
    1 hour ago

    The US election system is so fucked up (by design) that it’s kinda funny that the dems would be more successful if they tried to move more to the right than they already are. A shit ton of people in the US already think Kamala is too far left (somehow) so moving more right would literally get a lot of their vote because there’s a good amount of right-wingers who don’t like Trump. Plus, if you convince some republicans to vote democrat it’s like you’re getting two votes (you get one vote, and republicans lose one).

    • JucheBot1988@lemmygrad.ml
      14·
      2 hours ago

      You mean to say that –

      • switching candidates halfway through the election

      • having your replacement candidate be one of the few people somehow less popular than Biden

      • having said candidate go around openly endorsing genocide

      • telling leftists to ignore this, because genocide isn’t really a big deal

      – isn’t some kind of winning strategy to Unite the Left?

  • KrupskayaPraxis@lemmygrad.ml
    20·
    6 hours ago

    This election has proven that the fearmongering for the Greens by the Democrats was unfounded. The Greens won 0,7% of the vote in Michigan and the Dems there lost by more than a percent

    • 🏳️‍⚧️ 新星 [she/they]@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
      13·
      4 hours ago

      Technically, it could also mean that people who didn’t want to vote for a major party abstained from the election altogether (e.g. why wait for an hour and a half if you think not voting at all would accomplish the same thing?)

      • cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml
        7·
        4 hours ago

        if you think not voting at all would accomplish the same thing

        It doesn’t achieve the same thing though. There are all sorts of narratives that can be made up about why people decided not to vote that the establishment can use to excuse its own horrific behavior. A vote for a third party is a much clearer message, and it helps said third parties build momentum, even if just on a local level.

        On the other hand, i won’t judge people who decided that not voting was the best way for them to protest, i live in Europe and voting is probably easier here, barely takes a couple minutes and we usually have polling stations within walking distance. Which is why personally i still go out and vote, not for a third party because here even the third, fourth and fifth parties are neoliberal warmonger Washington puppets, but for a party that i know will barely get a few thousand votes in my entire state, but at least is anti-imperialist, anti-capitalist and anti-genocide.

        It’s depressing but it is what it is and you have to start somewhere even if small. The most important work we do as communists happens between elections anyway. Elections in a bourgeois dictatorship are the sideshow of the sideshow. Organizing, agitating and educating is what we should be putting the majority of our effort into.

        • cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml
          5·
          2 hours ago

          Case in point:

          Now i’m not sure if this graphic is accurate, and i’ve seen other reports that put Stein around 20% in this district, but either way it’s a powerful message of what happens when your candidate unapologetically supports and enables a genocide. I wish we could have seen these kinds of results for third parties all across the US, but at least this is a start.

  • amemorablename@lemmygrad.ml
    12·
    6 hours ago

    You know, I was trying to figure out how I feel about the results because like, I knew no matter which it would be, it wasn’t going to be a big difference to me (both genocidal imperialists, ya know). But like, I think what I figured out is I have some secondhand anxiety about it? Like I have some anxiety about how other people are going to react to it, because people have been hyped up to such a degree to believe it’s a world-ending scenario.

    • cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml
      5·
      2 hours ago

      At least now our comrades in the US might have a chance at getting some of the softer liberals to oppose the US government and its genocidal imperialist policies. Not the diehard liberals and mainstream pundits, they are ride or die for genocide and war and will only become more embittered against the left, but your average well meaning but naive center-left socially liberal friend or family member who would otherwise have gone to sleep for another four years under a Democrat administration.

      The coming months and years will be fertile ground for radicalization, IF communists distance themselves from the failed liberal approach and understand how to take advantage of the crises to come in order to mobilize the working class against not just one party or the other but the entire system. Because the crises that will come would have been inevitable no matter who won, as the logic of late stage capitalism and moribund imperialism dictates that the system continue to decay, and neither side of the bourgeois dictatorship is able to stop it.

      The most that Republicans can do is give even more handouts to the wealthy and take even more of a wrecking ball to the social safety nets, which will act like a stimulant creating the artificial impression of short term economic recovery but which after the initial high wears off will make the eventual crash even harder. They’re not going to reverse deindustrialization and they may even accelerate the demise of US global imperialist hegemony the more aggressive and reckless actions they resort to.

    • cayde6ml@lemmygrad.ml
      11·
      5 hours ago

      While not a world ending scenario, it’s incredibly uncomfortable to have a president that knowingly hates my people for having the wrong skin color and would be perfectly okay with genociding us.