Summary

Former CIA Director Leon Panetta warned that Trump’s return to the White House could embolden Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, giving him a “blank check” in the Middle East and increasing the risk of war with Iran.

Panetta expressed concern that Trump would support Netanyahu’s aggressive stance against Iran without restraint, potentially worsening regional instability.

Panetta also predicted Trump might allow Russia to retain parts of Ukraine if he returns to office, though he doubted Trump’s negotiation skills.

He criticized Trump’s approach to foreign policy, suggesting Trump would be inclined to “capitulate” to authoritarian leaders, which may not sit well with some Republicans.

  • geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml
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    2 hours ago

    So the same thing as Biden?

    The war with Iran is already on the doorstep of happening under Bidens unconditional aid.

    Such a shame Kamala did not get elected. Who also promised unconditional aid and advocated for starting a war with Iran.

    Posts like this would have a lot more impact if the Democrats were different.

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    What is fucked is that no matter what happens. They will insist that it was all the Democrat’s fault and all the fault of communists and socialists. They will be believed both despite the absurdity of it all and because of the absurdity of it.

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        Yeah, because DNC didn’t do a spectacularly bad job of fucking up the campaign.

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        I like how you flipped the script by blaming the group (the voters) and not the individual responsible (the DNC) for making the horrible decisions resulting in an ongoing genocide.

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          So you’re admitting that you just vote for whoever you were told to vote for?

          You just follow along and do whatever the crowd does?

          You’re admitting that you don’t have the mental capacity to identify the threat toward democracy and make the decision to vote for a candidate that isn’t a direct threat to global stability?

          Let me explain it in a way that a simple-minded individual could understand.

          Votes, elect candidates. Votes are given by voters, not political parties.

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          The voter voted in a guy that attempted an insurrection, so yup I think they hold some responsibility here.

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    May the people in this sub who screeched Genocide Joe and threatened Kamala over her continued support for Israel get the policies they voted for.

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      But at least they got join MAGA to own the libs.

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      I really hope we get the policies of Cornel West. That would be totally awesome. It’s why I voted for dude.

      Instead we’re getting a continuation of Genocide Joe.

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    I believe Putin’s power over Trump will prevent anyone doing anything extreme about Iran. Russia has always had an interest in controlling Iran and certainly would not approve the US taking it out.

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    He criticized Trump’s approach to foreign policy, suggesting Trump would be inclined to “capitulate” to authoritarian leaders, which may not sit well with some Republicans.

    Don’t they even know who they picked to represent them?

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    Libs still have zero self-awareness. Promoting genocide for months in the most condescending and futile manner… Then continuing to blame everyone else after they inevitably lose yet again.

    Seriously Trump is a garbage person who would be easy to beat with Bernie, Michelle, etc. But the libs gotta impose their terrible politics on everyone. Gotta shove their genocide down our throats.

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    That should put paid to the myth that Trump is ‘the antidote to all the wars’.

    I always thought that the argument ‘no wars were started during his presidency’ was bullshit.

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    Waiiiiit, are you saying that not voting Kamala didn’t magically stop the genocide in Gaza???

    That it only accelerates it, like I and other people have been saying for months???

    WHO COULD HAVE SEEN THIS COMING?!

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      I got banned from a community saying this as calmly as possible XD Idk i feel like theses tankies who were overwhelmingly hostile are either shills or hypocrits who just want to hurt the big bad capitalist, short and long term consequences be damned. (Tankies=/=Leftists just a reminder)

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      Well now that the election is lost, the Democrats could make true on their claim they would seriously end this, but had to wait until after the election…

      I doubt they will, because every of their action has shown to be equally strong genocide supporters. But we should see the next days, as Israel still doesnt let anywhere close to 350 Trucks into Gaza, leave alone any into the north of Gaza. The ultimatum is running out.

      Also as weapons deliverys to Israel have been and are illegal anyways under US law, now would be a great chance to get every Republican and Democrat who voted for them or approved them as part of the administration into jail and in front of a court.

      Oh wait, they wont because breaking the law, which unsurprisingly helped the convicted felon win, was worth it, so genocide could be further supportet.

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        It’s not like the Republican house thwarted all of Biden’s efforts either

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          That is true. Which is why it doesn’t matter if the bombs given to Israel are red or blue.

          However now Democrats lost over genocide. Now AIPAC cannot play both parties anymore by making blind support for Israel the deciding factor. The Democrats lost because of Israel. Now they need to purge the Zionists and rebrand as the non genocide party, if they want to win moving on. This locks AIPAC in as being only in support of the Republicans, which limits their political influence.

          If it wasn’t for Harris/Biden loss, there was no hope for Palestinians, or any other people in West Asia in regards to US policy. Now there is a chance that one side of US policy will change.

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            I don’t think genocide is the only reason Kamala lost.

            They lost because they ran a shitty campaign. The only politician with lower polling numbers than Biden are Dick Cheney (a war criminal) and she embraced him, and then bragged about getting support from corporate CEOs.

            The campaign was moronic at best.

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            I was so pissed at Israel and Israeli’s for the genocide we’re watching. Then as an American I looked in the mirror and saw my tax dollars providing the bombs for the genocide and realized I’m as responsible as the citizens of Israel. Now I’m just disgusted by our nation, the state of the world and my complicity in that state

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      Are you saying Kamala and Biden had the power to stop the genocide in Gaza but chose not to as a bargaining chip with Muslims?

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          My guess is that both pro-genocide candidates would make the genocide worse.

          The difference in degree is a matter of speculative opinion.

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    crazy to think that trump might do exactly what he said he was going to do. how could we, the voters, have predicted this?

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      I left the president blank. My state is blue, and Kamala won my state easily.

      I hate to break it to you, the voters don’t owe Democratic Party a damn thing.

      It’s the other way around.

      Keep blaming the voters and then see what happens next election.

      People voted for Trump because they are tired of the same old corporate mainstream politicians. Trump had a populist message and he addressed voters concerns.

      Democrats like you shouted at leftists like a bunch of whiny babies.

      Also; I hope you feel better about yourself yelling at people that they should support genocide like you do.

      Do you understand how pathetic this makes you look?

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      I mean, Trump will definitly ensure that the suffering of Palestenian people ends quickly

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        Judging by the lack of consequences for the previously observed war crimes, my bet is they’ll prolong the suffering to sate their revenge lust. See if anyone bothers to step in when they erect full blown torture camps.

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      Didn’t you know trump will stop the genocide…by writing a check so large that Israel completely removes Palestinians from the map… can’t have a genocide of Palestinians if there are no more Palestinians.

      Check mate libruls

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      The smugness of the average democrat at seeing Palestine being flattened by Democrat-funded bombs is a true sight to behold. Your inhumanity will be remembered.

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    Don’t worry there were no wars under Trump last time and there won’t be this time it’s that simple 😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎

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      I genuinely don’t know whether you’re being sarcastic or not.

      Yes, despite the smiley-spam.

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        Trump’s voters are so unhinged that it has become almost impossible to distinguish sarcasm from their real thoughts. Poe’s law n shit

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        i take comfort in knowing that most of the time it’s going to be sarcasm, since (in my experience) there are very few trump supporters on lemmy. and the few trump supporters that i’ve seen don’t tend to last.

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    I heard the “but there won’t be any of these wars once Trump is back” argument several times.

    I would usually revel in watching the walls come down around someone’s stupid opinions, but in this case, we as a country have to suffer for it.

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      “But Trump will stop me having to hear about all these wars.”

      Fixed for you. I heard the same from my mom - that it was a REAL SHAME Biden wasn’t trying to force Russia and Ukraine to peace.

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      Really shows how stupid and gullible the American electorate is. War is a classic “Wag the Dog” tactic.