The man’s death – after falling off the vehicle and hitting his head – is one of a growing number of e-scooter fatalities around Australia
It’s sad to hear despite he was probably reckless and not being safe. I hope scooters don’t get a bad wrap from this. Cars don’t get a “it’s too dangerous” sentiment despite all the drunk driving that still occurs. At least a scooter was less likely to have hurt other innocent people.
Yeah he was almost certainly being reckless and made bad decisions.
But if we had better-designed road networks, that reckless decision may not have cost him his life.
Sounds like he wasn’t wearing a helmet.
The more I see these things the more I think that full face helmets should be mandatory
It’s a multifaceted problem.
Scooters are definitely much more dangerous than bikes. They’re much harder to control and more likely to tip over. And that’s a problem.
And it seems highly likely that this guy was under the influence. Which is obviously a bad personal decision.
But also, there’s a severe problem with infrastructure. When you have actual good-quality infrastructure for bikes and scooters to use, crashes like this become much less likely. Yes, most of the conversation around bike infrastructure is about protecting them from cars, but quite a lot of what we’re building at the moment does a little to protect against cars while actually potentially increasing the risk of single-vehicle crashes or crashes between two active transport users. Still a worthwhile trade-off, but even better would be to build high quality, rather than mediocre, infrastructure.
In this case, the article says the guy “clipped a gutter”. When you have good bike path, there won’t be any gutters. At least not ones that you’re ever riding very close to. But then in this case it’s even worse. There wasn’t even a mediocre bike path. He was riding, presumably, on the footpath, with all of its bumps and cracks and lips. These things are uncomfortable and potentially risky on a bicycle, but are major hazards on the small wheels of a scooter.
This rider undoubtedly made some bad personal decisions leading up to the crash. But if our Council was doing its job properly and ensuring that there were high quality, reasonably direct, separated paths for people using active transport to get to any destination that they could desire, these mistakes would not have lead to his death.
Yep. Make the city and valley pedestrian and mobility only zones (with exceptions) and it will be much easier to make it suitable for pedestrians.
Scooters are definitely much more dangerous than bikes. They’re much harder to control and more likely to tip over. And that’s a problem.
Yes, the wheels on most scooters are too small in diameter to withstand anything but the smoothest terrain. One little hole or crack and you’re going over? I haven’t actually tried one so I might be wrong.
@thedavemiester too heavy for scooter use, unfortunately.
How?!
@thedavemiester Wearing one while standing for any length of time would be tiring. Also, it would screw with your balance. They’re heavy, and they would make your head wobble more than normal, and that would throw you off. Since maintaining balance is already tricky on a scooter, this would not be good.
I’m not convinced. I’ve seen plenty of people wearing full face helmets in their scooters just fine. They’re a little heavy and hot (which is why cyclists don’t wear them), but it’s absolutely not to the extent that it’s creating more danger than it prevents.
@Zagorath If you say so. Maybe it’s just me.
I wear one and ride a motorcycle for an entire day without noticing any extra strain from holding it up.
I’m not saying that full face helmets are a good requirement for scooters, but I don’t think weight is the reason.
I strongly disagree with you.
(Note. Have been on Lemmy for less than 8 hours. Oddly this feels just like reddit)
@thedavemiester “I strongly disagree with you.”
That’s okay - you’re allowed to :)
My girlfriend recently had a serious accident on one that required surgery, and my ex girlfriend broke her neck on one a few years ago! I was planning on getting myself another one after my last one was stolen, but I don’t think I will now…
