• BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    I don’t care if you call me tankie LIB

    You engage when i call you a LIB but not when asked questions, like why Sankara is the one good “authoritarian?” or people asking what you about your thoughts on anarchism beside “authoritarian bad.” You just link to wikipedia and use that LIB -ass word tankie

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      I don’t care if you call me tankie !

      You seem pretty movtivated in the conversation about me using the term tankie so I think this is bs.

      Stop calling me a lib and we can have a conversation.

      Are you interested in that?

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          Also I realize now that The Black panthers were ML and anti imperialst so I support them as well.

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                They were supporting the socialists in Afghanistan against the CIA backed Mujahideen. How is that imperialist?

                Edit clarity: an invasion is not imperialist on its own., It’s not about who does it, it’s about the objectives of the invasion.

                LIB nonsense

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                  It’s not about who does it, it’s about the objectives of the invasion.

                  Lol do you hear yourself?

                  Tankie bullshit friend.

                  Afghanistan did not want to be invaded. The Afghans fought with the soviets through guerilla warfare for a decade.

                  You sound just like Americans justifying the US invasion that would happen later.

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                    What’s bullshit about it? You just say its bullshit but not why.

                    That’s why you get called a LIB

                    Do you even read the Wikipedia articles you link people to? The Afghans were asking for Soviet aid against insurgents backed by the US. The invasion happened when the USSR feared their allies in Afghanistan were not capable of handling the US supported insurgency that they thought would institute a theocracy there as had happened in Iran. Which is exactly what ended up happening there.

                    That’s not what happened during the US invasion of Afghanistan. That invasion was a cover for war profiteeering, mineral extraction, and opiate production. Rhe US extracted value and resources from that region to enrich capitalists in the imperial core. That’s what makes it imperialist.

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          Rosa Luxemburg was a marxist who criticized Lenin.

          She also accused both Vladimir Lenin and the Bolsheviks of having police state aspirations.

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              MLs like you are the reason I am an anarchist.

              You asked for more communists i support and I listed some and now Im anti-communist because I don’t support the ones who created police states. Were you just waiting for me to engage so you could call that?

              Lol you make me want to call more people like you tankies because it is so applicable.

              MLs who think the only path to revolution is thru police states, are authoritarian by nature.

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                I wouldn’t consider any AES a police state. They are states, they utilize state power to defend themselves from threats from the capitalist class both internally and extermely, because those threats are reality.

                Thats why Sankara was assasinated, Rosa Luxembourg was assassinated, why the Black Panthers were assassinated or imprisioned. The capitalist class kills its enemies utilizing the power of the state. And the Black Panthers, Sankara, and Luxembourg were well aware of that.

                Believing in using the power of the state is part of ML doctrine, not creating police states, but utilizing that power for the proletariat. I don’t think you actually differentiate between state and police state, or a capitalist state from a socislist one (since you conflate the Russian Federation with the USSR which are not the same thing).

                Except, you do seem to able to differentiate, but only in cases were our revolutions failed, like in Burkina Faso, the Black Panthers, and Luxembourg. I’m not sure why all the communists you support are one’s who failed.