The justices settled a question left open in 2018: whether businesses open to the public and engaged in expression may refuse to serve customers based on religious convictions.
Liberal here… Straight white male for reference… I’ve never seen the problem with this. Why force a biggot to do business with people? They should be called out and forgotten about.
I understand if they provide a service that cannot be acquired elsewhere, but that’s rarely the case anymore.
It opens the door for people to discriminate against other protected categories of people.
Don’t like gays, don’t serve them.
Don’t Chinese people, don’t serve them.
Don’t like people over 50 or under 30, don’t serve them.
Don’t like women, don’t serve them.
Don’t like me because I’m a veteran, don’t serve me.
Basically any protected class can now be discriminated against if it aligns with your strongly held beliefs.
Bunch of originalist bullshit is what it really is.
I get what you’re saying, but I still don’t think we should be forcing biggots to do business with people. Let the biggots be flagged as biggots, so we all know which business to avoid.
Alternatively, we force them to do business with those people, and they do a shit job without revealing the reason.
Consider this in the context of a required service.
What if the doctor refused service because you were queer? How about lawyers?
Cakes and web design are used as the examples to make the problem seem less severe. It can and will extend much farther than what this ruling is based on.
But those are wildly different types of services. Are you saying that this court case makes it so that doctors can refuse service to homosexuals now?
It was my understanding that the nature of the business (ie, not a required service) and amount of available alternatives was a factor into why they should be allowed to refuse service.
I get where you’re coming from, but if some business wants to discriminate against me, they can discriminate themselves all the way to bankruptcy. I’d prefer that rather than them being legally forced to do shitty work for me because they’re dicks.
I hope you left that bar and posted that story about the bar and bartender on every social media website you could find. As well as leave reviews literally everywhere.
What if every bar in town refuses to serve black people? What if instead of bars, it was the only supermarket in town? Welcome to the South pre-civil rights. And don’t tell me that people didn’t know about it since it was pre-internet. It was widely-known about by pretty much everyone that being black in the South meant you were not allowed into all sorts of businesses.
And that’s what you want to go back to. That’s so liberal of you.
Liberal here… Straight white male for reference… I’ve never seen the problem with this. Why force a biggot to do business with people? They should be called out and forgotten about.
I understand if they provide a service that cannot be acquired elsewhere, but that’s rarely the case anymore.
It opens the door for people to discriminate against other protected categories of people.
Don’t like gays, don’t serve them. Don’t Chinese people, don’t serve them. Don’t like people over 50 or under 30, don’t serve them. Don’t like women, don’t serve them. Don’t like me because I’m a veteran, don’t serve me.
Basically any protected class can now be discriminated against if it aligns with your strongly held beliefs.
Bunch of originalist bullshit is what it really is.
I get what you’re saying, but I still don’t think we should be forcing biggots to do business with people. Let the biggots be flagged as biggots, so we all know which business to avoid.
Alternatively, we force them to do business with those people, and they do a shit job without revealing the reason.
Consider this in the context of a required service.
What if the doctor refused service because you were queer? How about lawyers?
Cakes and web design are used as the examples to make the problem seem less severe. It can and will extend much farther than what this ruling is based on.
But those are wildly different types of services. Are you saying that this court case makes it so that doctors can refuse service to homosexuals now?
It was my understanding that the nature of the business (ie, not a required service) and amount of available alternatives was a factor into why they should be allowed to refuse service.
I get where you’re coming from, but if some business wants to discriminate against me, they can discriminate themselves all the way to bankruptcy. I’d prefer that rather than them being legally forced to do shitty work for me because they’re dicks.
I saw a bartender at a restaurant tell a black person “I don’t serve N$&@$!” I think that should be illegal. This is in the same vein.
Agree to disagree.
I hope you left that bar and posted that story about the bar and bartender on every social media website you could find. As well as leave reviews literally everywhere.
What if every bar in town refuses to serve black people? What if instead of bars, it was the only supermarket in town? Welcome to the South pre-civil rights. And don’t tell me that people didn’t know about it since it was pre-internet. It was widely-known about by pretty much everyone that being black in the South meant you were not allowed into all sorts of businesses.
And that’s what you want to go back to. That’s so liberal of you.