• 2dollarsim@lemmy.world
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    I just read an article on this. It’s fake. The whole thing was a sham used to push this through the court. There was no web designer or gay couple. I thought this was wierd when I read it, because:

    1. How could some petty matter make it that high up?
    2. How could this ever actually happen in real life, when the business can say ‘oh we’re sorry we can’t take on another job right now.’ and avoid any costly legal proceedings??? For that matter, what customer is going to hold a business legally accountable to do work? Wouldn’t they just like… find someone else who will do the work?
    3. A business turning down paid work in this economy? Totally BS

    I don’t see really an issue with this, because in principle, any business can turn down work and not give a reason, or give a BS reason, so… nothing changed in the real world. There’s plenty of other people more than willing to do paid work.

    It’s pretty bad publicity for businesses now to be labelled as ‘we don’t serve gays here’ so I don’t see how this is good for them either.

    Seems to be an example of legislation that solved a problem that didn’t exist.

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      Apparently the guy named in the suit… isn’t gay and is married with children.

      The Court is revealing it’s true colors with rulings like these. America is in for dark days ahead.

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      That’s the part that pisses me off the most. All of this shit is happening because of lies. And the politicians know it’s all lies. They don’t care. Bread and circuses for their voters.

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    This literal fake case shouldn’t have gotten as far as it did but it shows the illgitamacy and partisan bullshit of these “justices”.

    And yeah, those deeply held religious beliefs, like Republican racism, won’t be long until it spreads to minorities.

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    Liberal here… Straight white male for reference… I’ve never seen the problem with this. Why force a biggot to do business with people? They should be called out and forgotten about.

    I understand if they provide a service that cannot be acquired elsewhere, but that’s rarely the case anymore.

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      It opens the door for people to discriminate against other protected categories of people.

      Don’t like gays, don’t serve them. Don’t Chinese people, don’t serve them. Don’t like people over 50 or under 30, don’t serve them. Don’t like women, don’t serve them. Don’t like me because I’m a veteran, don’t serve me.

      Basically any protected class can now be discriminated against if it aligns with your strongly held beliefs.

      Bunch of originalist bullshit is what it really is.

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        I get where you’re coming from, but if some business wants to discriminate against me, they can discriminate themselves all the way to bankruptcy. I’d prefer that rather than them being legally forced to do shitty work for me because they’re dicks.

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        I get what you’re saying, but I still don’t think we should be forcing biggots to do business with people. Let the biggots be flagged as biggots, so we all know which business to avoid.

        Alternatively, we force them to do business with those people, and they do a shit job without revealing the reason.

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          Consider this in the context of a required service.

          What if the doctor refused service because you were queer? How about lawyers?

          Cakes and web design are used as the examples to make the problem seem less severe. It can and will extend much farther than what this ruling is based on.

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            But those are wildly different types of services. Are you saying that this court case makes it so that doctors can refuse service to homosexuals now?

            It was my understanding that the nature of the business (ie, not a required service) and amount of available alternatives was a factor into why they should be allowed to refuse service.

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      I saw a bartender at a restaurant tell a black person “I don’t serve N$&@$!” I think that should be illegal. This is in the same vein.

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        Agree to disagree.

        I hope you left that bar and posted that story about the bar and bartender on every social media website you could find. As well as leave reviews literally everywhere.

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          What if every bar in town refuses to serve black people? What if instead of bars, it was the only supermarket in town? Welcome to the South pre-civil rights. And don’t tell me that people didn’t know about it since it was pre-internet. It was widely-known about by pretty much everyone that being black in the South meant you were not allowed into all sorts of businesses.

          And that’s what you want to go back to. That’s so liberal of you.

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    So I guess nobody has to provide services for anyone they disagree with…say like MAGA idiots?

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    Are there religious beliefs out there that forbid one from doing business with another sect? I’d love to see someone use that to try and challenge this precedence.