they’ve had a buggy day it seems, all their posts are getting quadrupled…

  • Altair@vlemmy.netEnglish
    28·
    1 year ago

    People be forgetting the entire point of decentralization and recommend a single overloaded instance when everything’s connected anyway 😔

    Join and recommend smaller general instances like lemm.ee, vlemmy.net, and lemmy.one at random instead. Smaller servers have been upgraded for the surge of users too you know

    • bnaur@lemmy.worldEnglish
      10·
      1 year ago

      Join and recommend smaller general instances like lemm.ee, vlemmy.net, and lemmy.one at random instead. Smaller servers have been upgraded for the surge of users too you know

      That was basically my logic when I joined lemmy.world a few weeks ago. Oh well…

    • DreamButt@lemmy.worldEnglish
      41·
      1 year ago

      We really need to build tools that maker it easier and more obvious for people to do that. We can’t punish people AFTER they have an account. Instead the signup process on overloaded servers needs to change

      • flashgnashEnglish
        9·
        1 year ago

        I think we need accounts themselves to be decentralised so you can move your user between instances

        Then we could have each instance automatically load balance with other instances it federates with, if it’s overloaded it could just forward users to another instance

        I think as long as we have the concept of users choosing one specific instance themselves we’re going to have problems with everyone going to 2 or 3 mainstream ones

          • flashgnashEnglish
            1·
            1 year ago

            I don’t know how Lemmy’s codebase works but I would imagine it’d be something like the server detects it’s under heavy load by its CPU usage, sends a request out to a given number of its friends, and they respond back whether they have spare capacity, and if one says it’s got capacity it redirects users to their domain instead (or maybe asks them if they want to first and then redirects them)

            Could even just have a pop up saying “This instance is overloaded, please consider using one of the following:” and then give a list of randomly selected instances with free capacity with links to continue with wherever you were doing on the other instance

            • skomposzczet@vlemmy.netEnglish
              1·
              1 year ago

              Problem with this is that every time this happens one needs to research those instances because probably most of the people wouldn’t like to end up in beehaw situation. But I guess it is only matters if this overloads would happen frequently. Once every few months I wouldn’t mind changing instance if it improves overall performance, and makes site more usable for everyone.

              • flashgnashEnglish
                2·
                1 year ago

                Beehaw defederated from loads of instances right? Kinda saw that coming seeing how much they’d setup on their own instance and branded everything

                This load balancer could prioritise instances that have similar white/black lists to the one you’re current on, and if it suggested switching instead of doing it transparently people would be choosing which one of those they’d rather use

                I think it’d also help people better understand how the system works and maybe permanently switch to another less popular instance

    • Shady_Shiroe@lemmy.worldEnglish
      3·
      1 year ago

      The things is that most people who join Lemmy don’t understand the premise at first so they join the ones with the most people, at least that is what happened to me, it is only after I used Lemmy for awhile that I understood how everything worked

      I initially thought that you can see other instances posts but you can’t comment or post there unless you had multiple accounts to every single one, but no you can cross post and comment, which even if it was like that it would still be better than using reddit.

      • OmniGlitcher@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        1 year ago

        My logic behind joining lemmy.world was that defederation may be an issue, current or future, therefore it made sense to join the one that for one has the most people, and for two is the least likely to be defederated or randomly defederate others.

        Granted, I believe beehaw did in fact defederate .world, and I think it was not long after, so maybe I did choose poorly.

        I was tempted to join feddit.uk, but I wasn’t sure if that would put the unnecessary identifier of “This guy’s probably British!” on me everywhere I go.

        • limerod@reddthat.comEnglish
          1·
          1 year ago

          Considering, beehaw defederated from two large instances. It would infact appear to be the exact opposite.

    • forklift@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      1 year ago

      My reasoning was that it would be easier to find new communities passively (instead of searching for them) in the instance with the highest member count.

      Joined today and it is laggy. Is this just a lemmy.world issue? Might sign up to a smaller instance if so.

      • Altair@vlemmy.netEnglish
        1·
        1 year ago

        It’s having federation and stability issues right now because it’s so ridiculously big.

        Lemmy hasn’t yet been optimized to handle so many users on a single server.

        And yeah, the discoverability/finding communities to join is the weakest part of the Fediverse right now. You have to go to lemmyverse.net to search for communities across all instances and see their actual total member count, which isn’t very user friendly and needs to be integrated into Lemmy itself like this GitHub issue says