Compared to established, age-old platform? Yes, we’re less developed. But do you know what’s even worse? Corporate greed! Rest assured, we’ll improve and mature over time.
Compared to established, age-old platform? Yes, we’re less developed. But do you know what’s even worse? Corporate greed! Rest assured, we’ll improve and mature over time.
I feel like Lemmy needs to make the signup process easier. I shouldn’t need to hunt down an open community to register under. At least give people an option to default to a community like @lemm.ee (which sounds like it never closes registration) otherwise the site could lose people due to mere confusion. Example: I tried registering under the Linux portion of lemmy.ml, but was told I couldn’t because registration was closed. Had I not gone to Lemm.ee and tried, I would’ve simply moved on with the thought of “too confusing”.
I’m open to the idea that I’m way off base with how Lemmy works, though I think that kind of frames the issue I’m getting at - familiarity & ease of understanding.
Someone can correct me if I’m wrong but that’s part of being federated and decentralized. Lemmy.ml is closed because they were one of the first big instances. They’re full up. Most instances are being manned by volunteers looking for donations. The bigger your instance and user base the more expensive the venture becomes.
Yeah Lemmy.ml is just overloaded. I guess they could just remove it from the recommended servers list temporarily (which I checked and it looks like they did).
I just joined - I understood the process from checking out Mastadon when the wave hit Twitter a while back, but it was confusing for me then, so I agree. What frustrated me off the bat here was that I created my account, verified my email, and just couldn’t log in. The page just wouldn’t even react. If I wasn’t so stubborn, I would have abandoned this for sure, so if that’s happening to anyone else, would be a problem.
It’s a server load thing. Both the servers are getting hard with tons of new signups and the software is getting stress tested on the daily ever increasing numbers. It’ll get better in time.
We also need to be able to quickly take our community preferences with us from one server to the next. The paradigm of Lemmy is a huge change for people coming from reddit, and having a “passport” that will let you move from server to server will help spread the load.
Do we really want the people who can’t figure out how to sign up? I know some of the explanations of federation are bad, but it doesn’t take more than three minutes of reading to get a grasp on what it is.
yes, actually. we want all flavours of people, including those who aren’t technically minded. artists, musicians, etc. plus; if it’s hard to join, you might put off those who, once they understand the site, actually end up contributing to its development. nobody is going to put in pull requests for a service they don’t use, and if there are objectively worse but easier to start using alternatives out there, they’ll use them instead
technological knowledge is no indicator of moral standing, you know
I’d argue signing up for a website isn’t technically challenging in 2023. And I wasn’t implying it had anything to do with morals. Someone turned off by the thought of having to learn to use a platform isn’t likely to bring anything valuable to the table.
Willingness to learn a new platform is in no way correlated with general life knowledge. Even if someone isn’t contributing to the code base or moderation or creating communities, there are absolutely people that contribute in the form of engagement or other areas of knowledge.
If I want to connect with, say, people that know about permaculture, animals, how factory management works, or a group of mom’s doing a book club. These people can know really interesting things without also (necessarily) being tech savvy and there should absolutely be space for them on social media. User accessibility is not a bad thing.
I go back and forth. Someone being technically illiterate doesn’t mean they have a bad perspective, and someone being a mega tech guru doesn’t necessarily mean they have a good one.
I see what you’re saying, though. I think that most people on here are somewhat fundamentalist in our “internet good will”, which seems to make our discussions very very nice. And we should do what we can to ensure that the conversation stays at that level even as more people join the fediverse