edited to meet rule #3!
you left reddit because 3rd party apps were being killed off.
I left reddit because reddit sucks and I’ve been looking for an alternative for a long while now.
We are not the same.
i left because 3rd party apps were being killed off, I’m staying because this is a superior community
I left because the way they went about killing third party apps. Bad faith notification, shit communication, and slandering Christian.
I left because having that sort of person at the helm is just disconcerting.
Same, they could have easily bundled in third party apps as only something you can use with Reddit gold or something, and I would have happily done that.
It’s showerthoughts. not supposed to be taken entirely literally!
my post is in the format of a meme, it’s not supposed to be taken seriously. but yeah it’s pretty ironic.
my meme game is obviously severely lacking.
Not understanding every meme? Believe it or, straight to jail.
Not understanding every meme? That’s a paddlin’.
Yeah, straight to “not horny enough jail” because if you don’t understand every meme, you’re not horny enough for memes.
This person right here, officer
Maybe the lack of third-party apps is the friends we made along the way?
I haven’t deleted my account or anything, but after RIF Is Fun closes it’s doors, I will likely be on Reddit very seldomly if at all. Most of my browsing of Reddit has been via RIF since 2015. The official app has always been a slow, glitchy, ad-riddled piece of shit. RIF was like using a mobile-friendly version of the old layout and was 1000% more stable. So instead of finding a way to integrate something similar into the official app and fixing their bloatware, they decide to kill third party apps altogether. You’d think EA owned Reddit by the way they’re going about things these days.
No skin off my nose if Reddit ceases to function. The Reddit that exists today bares very little resemblance to the website I fell in love with 14 years ago.
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People are not moving over here for convenience, it’s new young software with many flaws and missing features. I think most of us are just looking for a brighter future of social networks, one not dictated by a megacorporation and instead segmented more under our individual control. It’s impossible for this to match reddit in everything since that’s a company with thousands of employees and a 10 year headstart, but perfect shouldn’t be an enemy of good.
yup, i am here because third party apps or no, Reddit was just a horrible place to be anymore. i’m loving the ‘wild wild west’ of similar apps and a new social network i’d never experienced before.
I’m with you. Plus I really miss the pre-socmed days of the internet where it was just specialized forums. Being early at kbin kinda sorta maybe feels similar.
Also the Kbin web UI is already better than the official Reddit Mobile app or site, IMO.
It’s no Relay for Reddit, but I’m cautiously optimistic that in six months there will be a bunch of third party apps to choose from.
To be fair, kbin on a mobile browser is already leagues above the official reddit app
About the only thing that sucks is the comments being separated by page. Also, I don’t seem to get notification when someone replies to a comment/post.
So the only thing lacking here is just the user numbers
I had that problem too but turns out I didn’t turn on notifications in settings. Maybe tweaking that might help?
There was a post stating that the kbin guy knew of the bug re notifications and was working to fix it. About 24 hours ago now I think.
I have explored all the settings options and I don’t see an option to turn on notifications. Where?
I don’t mind that, personally. Infinite scrolling is a pet peeve of mine.
I saw some roadkill on the way to work today that looked and functioned better than the official app.
I tried the official app an hour ago. Now I’m on Firefox mobile. This is accurate.
Incredibly true
Agreed. I find the mobile Web interface really pleasant so far.
To me, I loved using Relay for Reddit, but them killing the 3rd party apps in itself wasn’t why I left. The whole situation just showed that Reddit doesn’t care about the community, they just care about profit, and they’ll happily shaft the users and prominent members of the community.
This, I was all going with the flow with the blackout (my 3rd party app in particular is apparently “in talks” so good chance won’t get shut down), but after the AMA I just left. I spend time here and on tildes, fulfills my need to be social on the internet.
Hell, before the AMA I was willing to pay a sub to use an app on my phone, not anymore . . . after all the shit of the past decade I am just done, and I think there are thousands like me.
Even then, the way they went about getting that profit was so sleazy to me. I don’t like it, but I get a company needing to make a profit. But there’s ways of doing that where you can still put the community first.
I don’t think most people left solely because of 3rd party apps being killed. I think they left because of the loss of trust that move and the subsequent negative PR created.
It’s natural people are looking for something new, even though the quality of life is lower for now. Some things are more important than convenience.
Edit: I forgot to answer the question. No, I don’t think it’s ironic. I think it’s telling.
Well for me it’s that Reddit simply won’t have any third-party apps in the near future (because of the pricing), while fediverse apps like lemmy and kbin, despite not having a wide range of options for them right now, can have as many as it wants and have no way to kill them.
Plus if they’re wiling to do this, who knows whether they’ll keep old.reddit.com around in the near future as well?
I give old.reddit a year max before they finally axe it.
Saw one comment here saying it was going in July, but it had no attribution so it’s probably a rumour or misunderstanding.
Do you really take a pragmatic stance like this for everything in life, or do you just not like to talk about abstract concepts like emotions, trust, having principles etc.?
What I’m really asking is, does being treated like shit and taken for an idiot by a huge company have any bearing on your decision or is it truly only about the user experience of using said company’s services?
Uh… I suppose I am taking a pragmatic stance? At the end of the day it’s just an internet service, I don’t have any “personal connections” with Reddit so I don’t feel anything remotely close to “being treated like shit and taken for an idiot”.
They’re doing stuff that’s inconveniencing and disrupts my expected flow, so I’m leaving the platform - that’s more or less the whole situation for me.
The issue I have with your stance is dependent very much of the nature of the service we are talking about.
It’s not “just an internet service” in a vacuum. It’s a huge base of influence, powerful enough to affect election results, public policy and a platform for ideas which can have life and death level importance for some people.
I wouldn’t talk about principles and trust if the service in question was something like an app to manage your personal finances, watch tv shows on or anything like that. We’re talking about a company with enough influence to affect millions of lives, which can in turn be affected only by millions of lives taking a stance towards it.
I don’t know how else to explain this. Some things are, by their nature, aren’t supposed to be personal choices. One can have an opinion, and one can have personal reasons to do as they please, but I think one should at least have some awareness of what the thing they’re forming opinions on influences ultimately.
You may say “what difference could my personal choice as a single person make”, and that’s valid, but if that was true in every case, marketing and outreach wouldn’t have any effect on life, crowdfunding wouldn’t be a thing, people on youtube wouldn’t literally beg for likes and subscribes, of which everyone can have one per video and per channel respectively.
I see, I think that’s a valid point to make. For myself though, I don’t really see or use Reddit in that manner since I always considered it to be a content and link aggregator. It has a collection of communities that I subscribe to see links/images/videos, and that’s it. So in that sense I don’t personally view it more than, as you say, an app to to manage your personal finances and watch TV shows.
Of course that’s not to say that it’s not capable of the things you’ve mentioned, it’s absolutely able to influence the opinions of those that participate in the platform. And by extension it’s reasonable to expect that the management of the platform needs to be trustable - which is being put to question with their recent actions.
To a certain extent (almost) every large company treats it’s consumers poorly. I would argue it tends to start around the time the company starts thinking of the shareholders above everything else.
Ethical consumption (as I’ve heard it called) is difficult, if not impossible, to completely perform. I think most of the time, you take the company that fits your needs the best and rarely do you inconvenience yourself in order to boycott a company that takes unethical (or similar) actions. Even if you do, usually the replacement company (or going without that product if there is no acceptable replacement) has some sort of new benefit.
Note: I am not super educated on this topic and am mostly talking out of my head.
He’ll, I typically used the reddit app rather than 3rd party, but they’re doing too much shady-ass shit, and have been for too long (mainly thinking of the mod situation and how a few mods control a vast amount of content without seemingly any oversight). It’s weird over here, but it reminds me of when I joined reddit more than 10 years ago now, it’s got that vibe, ya know?
I was in the Wild West of the internet once, I’ll be in the Wild West of the internet again.
The cycle continues once again.
Browsing on mobile without being asked to log into the app every 10 seconds is already a huge improvement for me.
Ha,
I just got asked to log inyeah, but when reddit does it, it’s a “feature”
This. The absolutely constant harangue of screen-covering popups GET THE APP HAVE YOU TRIED THE APP IT’S BETTER WITH THE APP GIVE US ALL YOUR PERSONAL DATA BITCH is absolutely infuriating. Far from unique to Reddit, sadly, but well more than enough to make my decision to quit (in my case, over the toxicity of the default feed) much more justified.
I also find it interesting that lack of mod tools is a big complaint of reddit but it seems that lack of mod tools is immediately an issue on kbin/lemmy.
But the decisions made on one vs the other are moving in the opposite directions.
This is a new town, not a razed town.
I think mod tools will become a higher priority as more users, posts, and comments start to show up. Given kbin’s sudden explosive growth, I doubt mod support was high on the dev’s todo list last week.
Remember that we didn’t leave because there were no moderation tools to begin with, but rather because existing ones would die and new ones wouldn’t be able to flourish.
The Threadiverse (what people like to call the combination of Kbin + Lemmy) is growing day-by-day, more communities are arriving here, and with that more developers will take interest in developing tools for use on the Threadiverse, but also the Fediverse as a whole.
After all, there’s already mastodon instances (like https://botsin.space) which are purely for hosting bots. I presume that instances like this will soon also be made specifically for Kbin/Lemmy bots.
There’s a difference between “actively killing” and “actively developing” third party apps.
You look to the future, not the past or present
At least the alternatives come with functional and decent mobile websites.
While technically correct, I left reddit because the API pricing was more of less the last straw in a long list of issues Reddit has had. It was more of a sign of things to come. This is basically what happened with Digg and why people jumped to reddit.
When history doesn’t rhyme, it repeats.
Hello, fellow ex-Digger!
Same here. Without third party apps, the reddit browsing experience comes back to similar to this or a horrendous official app. So I may as well use an alternative, anyway.
Things were only getting worse. And this was a great excuse to do so.
We aren’t here because this is a better experience. It clearly is not. Reddit has had years of polishing and 3rd party development to make the user experience what it was. Here there’s server crashes, little content, interesting UI choices, and no real idea if this one is going to ‘win’ over some of the other alternatives.
But Reddit killing 3rd party apps is too heavy handed, and people don’t like that. We don’t want to see ads. I’d rather go outside than subject myself to advertisements. We’re bombarded by ads from all directions 24/7 and it’s too much.
Additionally, Reddit will be able to manipulate content and spread propaganda without oversight once they take their users in-house. I’m not interested in being programmed by whoever is invested in the site. This isn’t about ‘3rd party apps’ even though it’s about the apps. This is about leaving a site that is actively going against the users’ best interests on multiple fronts.
There aren’t many/any 3pa at the moment, but the admins also didn’t recently enact policy changes that are aggressively anti third party, so there’s that at least.
Plus the mobile layout is perfectly serviceable on Firefox right now.
I think they just added PWA support.
I hope they make it stop auto rotating. I tried it out but it auto rotates on Android even though I have that setting disabled on my phone. It means I can’t use it when lying on my side (which I currently am).
What’s PWA?
Progressive Web app, basically a website that is modern and functional enough that it feels like an app.
I’m a web dev and I don’t know this lol… So it’s just a responsive/ mobile first website.
PWA stands for “Progressive Web App”, which is a web site that looks and acts like a mobile application.
I want to know too
That makes sense, it does have that feel, yeah.
It’s not about the 3rd party apps, it’s about sending a message.jpg
Well browsing this on a simple browser isn’t that bad. Miles better than trying to browse Reddit on a mobile browser.
so true. browsing kbin on mobile though I never see the address or magazine name next to the kbin logo so it’s somewhat easy to get lost. even if I switch to landscape it’s still missing. Doesen’t help that the magazine details end up at the bottom of the page.
Ehn. I’m sure it’s still that will be fixed eventually. There’s still heavy development going on. Hell I’m more annoyed the notifications were automatically set to off when I first made this account. Of course I want to know if someone replied to me!
