Then the costs of labor jump considerably and cars suddenly cost 2x as much. Economics and geopolitics isn’t as simple as you’re making it out to be. Cars are far from the only thing Mexico exports a lot of to the US.
Oh ffs they told us NAFTA would lower our prices and raise living standards on both sides. Idk about Mexican living standards, but that’s about the time a pair of Levi’s jumped from $15 to $30 a pair. Yeah, it was a long time ago.
I mean that’s a Thursday pretty much in today’s world. And the whole cost of labor thing, I mean it’s not like we don’t have prisoners who we can force to do labor for people. Or like we don’t have Arkansas that’s making child labor cool again. We don’t really have to worry about insurance or crap like that anymore because we’ve create FSAs so now if you don’t have enough money to cover your heart attack, well that’s your fault. And we’ve got 401(k) so if you can’t retire, that’s also your fault.
And I kid about that. But not really. The only reason the cost would jump up is because the whole shifting production to the US is a great excuse for the CEOs to jack the price up and buy their third yacht. But seriously we can totally move production to the US and it actually cost less, the “Oh it’ll cost more!” is some bullshit that’s pandered around by rich white assholes and some folks buy into it. People like to say we have to pay people $100/hr or whatever BS, but we have to pay them that because we jacked up the price of food and housing. And we jacked those things up because fuckers like to speculate in those things and make massive profit off of the paper at the expense of your average person having to pay more.
Like whatever you’ve got as the justification for why we need to pay more in the US, all of those reasons end with “because some rich asshole wanted to become richer” and if we got rid of the asshole we wouldn’t have nearly the cost we’ve got already.
That was my point. Corpos aren’t just going to take less margins if labor costs did increase. And my point doesn’t even necessarily disagree with what you’re saying, because greedy corpos are going to be greedy corpos and will use any excuse to raise costs.
But regardless, my main point was that the economic relationship between Mexico and the US is way more complex than you and the original comment are making it out to be. Unless you’re an economic expert specializing in international trade, I’m not going to really take you armchair opinion seriously on what would happen if Mexico suddenly ceased all business with the US.
Then the costs of labor jump considerably and cars suddenly cost 2x as much. Economics and geopolitics isn’t as simple as you’re making it out to be. Cars are far from the only thing Mexico exports a lot of to the US.
Oh ffs they told us NAFTA would lower our prices and raise living standards on both sides. Idk about Mexican living standards, but that’s about the time a pair of Levi’s jumped from $15 to $30 a pair. Yeah, it was a long time ago.
I’m cool with labor costs normalizing.
I mean that’s a Thursday pretty much in today’s world. And the whole cost of labor thing, I mean it’s not like we don’t have prisoners who we can force to do labor for people. Or like we don’t have Arkansas that’s making child labor cool again. We don’t really have to worry about insurance or crap like that anymore because we’ve create FSAs so now if you don’t have enough money to cover your heart attack, well that’s your fault. And we’ve got 401(k) so if you can’t retire, that’s also your fault.
And I kid about that. But not really. The only reason the cost would jump up is because the whole shifting production to the US is a great excuse for the CEOs to jack the price up and buy their third yacht. But seriously we can totally move production to the US and it actually cost less, the “Oh it’ll cost more!” is some bullshit that’s pandered around by rich white assholes and some folks buy into it. People like to say we have to pay people $100/hr or whatever BS, but we have to pay them that because we jacked up the price of food and housing. And we jacked those things up because fuckers like to speculate in those things and make massive profit off of the paper at the expense of your average person having to pay more.
Like whatever you’ve got as the justification for why we need to pay more in the US, all of those reasons end with “because some rich asshole wanted to become richer” and if we got rid of the asshole we wouldn’t have nearly the cost we’ve got already.
That was my point. Corpos aren’t just going to take less margins if labor costs did increase. And my point doesn’t even necessarily disagree with what you’re saying, because greedy corpos are going to be greedy corpos and will use any excuse to raise costs.
But regardless, my main point was that the economic relationship between Mexico and the US is way more complex than you and the original comment are making it out to be. Unless you’re an economic expert specializing in international trade, I’m not going to really take you armchair opinion seriously on what would happen if Mexico suddenly ceased all business with the US.
That’s the clearest, most concise take on the issue I’ve read so far.