let’s get this on federation shall we

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        “If you stick a knife in my back 9 inches and pull it out 6 inches, there’s no progress. If you pull it all the way out, that’s not progress. The progress is healing the wound that the blow made… And they won’t even admit the knife is there.”

        – Malcolm X, 1964

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      hey have you watched “the man in the high castle” it’s about alternative universe in which the nazis won, can you imagine if that happened, can you imagine if they just took over an entire continent and murdered almost everyone on it and installed a fascist christian ethnostate and went about playing world police for 80 years, that would be real fucked up

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        My favorite part about the book is that there’s an alt-alt-history novel the characters will sometimes read, The Grasshopper Lies Heavy where instead the Allies win the alt-history version of WW2. In the alt-alt-history, after the Allies win they basically do a positive imperialism where they conquer Africa and China, somehow eliminate poverty, spread the New Deal worldwide, then the US and UK get into a cold war that the UK wins.

        I took it to mean that PKD thought even in a liberal’s wildest imagination, even when under the direct threat of fascism, they’d write a book about how they almost win and then lose.

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        I made a similar observation several years ago. For the American tribes still present, The Man in the High Castle is a reality for them.

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      It is not OK when the United States of America commits imperialist expansion and genocide.

      Therefore, it is OK when other countries commit imperialist expansion and genocide.

      This is sarcasm.

      I have to specify because there are actually dipshits dumb enough to unironically believe this utter fucking bullshit around here.

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        I agree 100% with this comment

        I can’t believe people here support the genocide and imperialism Ukraine is doing to the people in the Donbass just because it isn’t America

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        Thanks for finally saying it, everything that every country ever does is Imperialism! Context? Who cares! The main thing is that since everyone is doing imperialism, everyone is bad. But “we” are doing it less badly than them, which makes them worse, so lets talk about “them” more than ourselves, I think thats fair!

        This is sarcasm.

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          i am literally criticizing whataboutism.

          every time someone says “russia shouldn’t be doing that” the response is “bUh wUdDaBoUt UsA”

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            Russia shouldn’t be doing what? Protecting russians from nazis? Пшел нахуй либерал

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            The point is, if you are against imperialism, then:

            1. You should know what imperialism actually is.
            1. You should be against imperialism all the time, consistently.

            Libs neither understand what imperialism is, nor do they condemn it when the West does it.

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      Kind of a disservice to commie westerners, like me (please forgive me for the heinous crime of being polish 😭😭😭), who saw the light and dropped Mussolini and Hitler. It was a hard and long poop, the one you have to take your shirt off on, but they got out.

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        Don’t worry, we are not westerners, never were and never will be. Now if only our compatriots noticed that pretty clear 1000 year huge memo…

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    The willingness not only to dehumanise all Russians at the drop of a hat is astounding in itself, but to then go on and assert just how many Ukrainian lives we’re willing to drop in a blender to STICK IT TO PUTLER is next level. The complete willingness for bloodshed on both sides is strange. The contest seems to be just how many countries of people can they support the genocide of simultaneously.

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      The lines from politicians (of both sides of the american political party) about how happy they are they get to kill russians without any American lives lost is the most telling thing, they don’t give a shit about anyone in Ukraine. Lives lost don’t mean a single damn to them.

      Any Ukranian who sees that shit should realise that the west doesn’t care about them for a second. They are in for a rude awakening if they think the average person will see a single american dollar to provide water, food or blankets. Incidentally, all things Evil China has provided to them already.

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      Maybe they’re Epic G!mers who saw the Metal Gear Solid series as nonpolitical and admired the blue curtains and saw proxy wars being waged for profit as “based” because it resembles the treats. galaxy-brain

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      It’s incredible how situational Russian humanity is to the liberal. Or any other nationality’s humanity.

      As long as they do what we want them to and move towards neoliberal capitalism, they’re fine. They’re great. They understand that the real world is difficult, just like we do, but they’re doing what they need to.

      As soon as they deviate from that and go the other way, they’re savages who don’t understand how the world has changed and they need to get on with the times. They become worthless, and anything we inflict on them is justified ad hoc. It’s their fault. They don’t understand why they need to bow down to nato for their own good.

      At the end of every westerner is his own Hitler.

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    Yes, it would be worthwhile to study clinically, in detail, the steps taken by Hitler and Hitlerism and to reveal to the very distinguished, very humanistic, very Christian bourgeois of the twentieth century that without his being aware of it, he has a Hitler inside him, that Hitler inhabits him, that Hitler is his demon, that if he rails against him, he is being inconsistent and that, at bottom, what he cannot forgive Hitler for is not crime in itself, the crime against man, it is not the humiliation of man as such, it is the crime against the white man, the humiliation of the white man, and the fact that he applied to Europe colonialist procedures which until then had been reserved exclusively for the Arabs of Algeria, the coolies of India, and the blacks of Africa

    I have talked a good deal about Hitler. Because he deserves it: he makes it possible to see things on a large scale and to grasp the fact that capitalist society, at its present stage, is incapable of establishing a concept of the rights of all men, just as it has proved incapable of establishing a system of individual ethics. Whether one likes it or not, at the end of the blind alley that is Europe, I mean the Europe of Adenauer, Schuman, Bidault, and a few others, there is Hitler. At the end of capitalism, which is eager to outlive its day, there is Hitler. At the end of formal humanism and philosophicrenunciation, there is Hitler

    From Discourse on Colonialism by Aimé Césaire

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    For the past few days I have done nothing but lurk hexbear struggle sessions and sh.itjust.works threads involving them and honestly, I believe every liberal (at least from there) does not just have a potential of hitler but a particle of hitler inside of them. Just like Trotsky wrote or something lmao

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    ‘Potential’ Hitler? At least half of them proudly wear their armbands on their shoulders

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    Its getting to the point that I’m starting to like seeing these idiot liberal comments, not because of the contents but because of the sheer ridiculousness of their perspectives. I think if we ban them we should leave their comments up just for the spectacular breakdown that usually happens in the replies, its gold imo.

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    Can someone explain this please?

    • in addition to ignoring the context behind the war, Western online liberals tend to encourage sacrificing as many Ukrainian lives as “necessary” in order to regain control over pieces of land (primarily the Donbas and Crimea), regardless of what their long-time inhabitants want and what the Ukrainians forced to join the army want

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      I believe this will help: https://en.prolewiki.org/wiki/Library:Discourse_on_Colonialism

      Yes, it would be worthwhile to study clinically, in detail, the steps taken by Hitler and Hitlerism and to reveal to the very distinguished, very humanistic, very Christian bourgeois of the twentieth century that without his being aware of it, he has a Hitler inside him, that Hitler inhabits him, that Hitler is his demon, that if he rails against him, he is being inconsistent and that, at bottom, what he cannot forgive Hitler for is not crime in itself, the crime against man, it is not the humiliation of man as such, it is the crime against the white man, the humiliation of the white man, and the fact that he applied to Europe colonialist procedures which until then had been reserved exclusively for the Arabs of Algeria, the coolies of India, and the blacks of Africa

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    At this point I look at USA and all of their puppets westoid or not as bunch of nazi/fascist hordes, no distinction at this point, especially in Europe, just look at the way these people talk.