What an utter piece of shit.

  • BeautifulMind ♾️@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    It’s cute how if Ukraine fights back that risks nuclear war, but when Russia invades a sovereign country it doesn’t

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      10 months ago

      It’s like the rule of money, but with nukes: those who have the money/nukes, make the rules.

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      10 months ago

      I’ll probably get downvoted to hell but America’s done that for hot minute now and also evades any real criticism from the West. And yes, Russia bad and invasion bad, no question but if we’re keeping score…

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        10 months ago

        Fuck Woodrow Wilson. Wilsonian Doctrine wasn’t even close to the worst thing that shitstain caused while president.

        Worst. President. Ever.

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            10 months ago

            I don’t disagree, but I don’t think that fits the specific example here. It isn’t so much about an imperial power invading another country, but the country in question fighting back and being discouraged from doing so.

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        10 months ago

        Not anymore. They gave them to Russia under guarantees they wouldt do… pretty much everything they are doing right now.

        I’m starting to think Russia might not be trustworthy…

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          Yeah, in the mid 90s the world was so optimistic about Russia, and frankly reassured about the nukes going to Russia, which was believed to be the more confidently governed nation state.

          Everyone was still riding high on the cold war seemingly coming to a close.

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          10 months ago

          Too bad so sad! Should have been smart like Kim Jong. Keep some nukes and you don’t get invaded.

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          I think he addressed it clearly enough. Russia invading Ukraine has no risk of Ukraine starting a nuclear war. Why? Because Ukraine does not have nukes.

          A country like Russia, if facing an existential threat, has the capacity and incentive to use nuclear weapons. Why? Because they have nukes.

          This is why even the US had hesitations last year (same time this Starlink episode happened) about sending certain types of weapons to Ukraine - out of fear of nuclear escalation. Now that Ukraine has drone striked Russian territory a few times it seems obvious because nuclear escalation hasn’t happened… but Musk was not alone in thinking this. Remember that US refused to give all sorts of weaponry at first. They didn’t want to give fighters jets, tanks, etc.