It’s so funny how westerners get shocked by china achieving something they invest many billions into every year that has an extremely high political priority
Westerners are so used to the unorganized, inept privatized sectors slowly milking the money out of the system and only producing slow results.
China’s industries were like that too. But their private sector is more nuanced and the government will actually take steps to force them to stop fucking around (even if they don’t seize it), while in the west you can lost $5 billion in some monkey crypto elon mungus kkkoin and it’s just called a free market risk
You don’t understand the asiatic brainpan cannot comprehend semiconductors
Except the ones we like. They’re alright (I cannot tell the difference between the various Chinese nationalities
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When you accept bad governance as a fact of life, you expect everyone else to be the same
I thought capitalists loved competition?
the PRC’s growing aggression
It’s a chip, ya fuckin weenie
They’re being aggressive because they aren’t curling up in the fetal position and begging for our forgiveness after we tried to nuke their economy
I also recall the west being the only superpower community that has invaded Africa and the Middle East since 2000 and the US unilaterally sanctioning everyone and threatening to sanction everyone who doesn’t follow their lead.
Biden has fallen
Millions must vote blue no matter who
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Billions must die in a Three Gorge Dam attack
I misrepresented the Bloomberg article here because I needed another screenshot to fill up the page, but the article isn’t really that bad. It just talks about how despite the west’s claims of China always stealing, they showcased how China’s inventions and products were eventually “stolen” by the western market, and the intellectual property “theft” is not some unique Chinese brainpan gene. https://archive.ph/siRPZ
So is US media going to blame all Chinese development on theft even after the Chinese move past them?
“Did the Chinese ‘invent’ a time machine to steal American secrets from the future? Here’s what experts are saying.”
They’ll discredit them however they can saying shit like “china only developed the fastest chip in the world because their base is stolen IP”
“US wants details on China made chips”
Well golly gee maybe you shouldn’t have refused to cooperate with them on chips to the point of refusing to export any.
Like a child that refuses to let somebody into their clubhouse but then immediately gets mad when the other kids say they’ll go make their own.
They can also just buy it lol. But instead they have to pay some CIA asset to ship it from a non-ban country to the US lol
china does a heckin chip but at what cost
They don’t have hot chips
They don’t need it when the Schezwan region exists. Mmmm, peppers.
I like how their response for an ineffective sanction is just “further sanctions.” Yeah, that’ll do the trick, sure, go for it USA!
Just one more sanction bro… just one more and it’ll work this time I swear
Nevermind that China has a huge domestic research industrial base, China has also poached a bunch of TSMC engineers recently (obviously, since Taiwan and Mainland China are so similar culturally and pay in large Chinese cities is very similar to Taiwan).
Plus, TSMC work culture is sort of fucked and has a shit ton of bureaucracy that a newer upstart can avoid. The only reason the West doesn’t have semiconductor foundry startups is because nobody is willing to dump a billion dollars into an unknown quantity.
For what it’s worth, that’s also why the big US semiconductor companies also have absolute dogshit work culture.
Basically, anyone surprised by this is a fucking idiot. Anyone with one ounce of sense could have realized that Huawei doesn’t need to dodge sanctions because they have the largest supply of semiconductor engineers in the world literally on their doorstep. This feat could have been achieved without hiring a single person from Mainland China, and it would have been entirely legal.
Nevermind that, people seem to forget how TSMC was founded. About 20 years after the US had been an established player (Intel, AMD/GloFo, TI, Philips/NXP, etc.) in the semiconductor foundry business, the Taiwanese government decided that the foundry game was something they were interested in and decided to dump massive swaths of money into not only the company but into the supporting infrastructure (a cadre of elite semiconductor schools, for one).
Decades later, the government has made it so that the most desirable job in Taiwan isn’t to become a lawyer or doctor, but to become a TSMC engineer. If Taiwan could do it, why can’t China? China has more people, better schools, more money, and more resources… And SMIC was founded more than two decades ago. It was actually around this point in TSMC’s company history that they received their first order from Apple.
White people are racist as fuck.
West doesn’t have semiconductor foundry startups is because nobody is willing to dump a billion dollars into an unknown quantity.
Not true. Biden gave IBM or Intel billions of dollars recently to accelerate the process of domestic chips. They fired a bunch of the engineers and used the money to increase shareholder profits
Those weren’t unknown quantities
