• Gargleblaster@kbin.social
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    Tasers were introduced to police forces so that the police could de-escalate potentially lethal situations with less-than-lethal means. 2 seconds later, tasers turned into replacements for billy clubs to mete out punishment. That was not their intended use.

    Every time they do this, they are turning a non-violent event into a violent one.

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    During the physical altercation, Birmingham officers attempted to get Mims to place his hands behind his back, but he refused.

    The arresting officer alleges Mims pushed him during the arrest. The arresting officer then subdued Mims with a Taser which ended the physical confrontation.

    Citizen resists bullshit arrest. Citizen meets force.

    Even if you know the arrest is complete bullshit / illegal, it’s best not to physically fight back in almost every case. They’re just itching for a reason to kick ass.

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        Maybe I’m mistaken, but I don’t think @some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org was saying the cop was right. I read the comment as a reminder that cops are, well, cops, so always expect the worst from them.

        I rather politely argued with a cop once, and got a fat lip.

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        Regardless of if the cops are lying or not (they likely are) what, exactly, do you have to gain by resisting? It’s not like they are going to go “damn, this dude is spicy better back off.” You are going to be greeted with additional force.

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        Acknowledging that police and brutality go together like a fish and water isn’t excusing it, just saying that resisting is 100% of the time just going to end with you still getting arrested but now with additional charges and your shit kicked in

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        None of what he wrote was cop apology.

        It’s self preservation

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          There’s no indication that the band leader did anything to lay a hand on the cop. Cops add that shit to the report by default, and if there’s video you’ll see they lied.

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      I think what the comment about cops lying is trying to say is that who cares what the cops say happened here? They’re going to say he resisted no matter what. Ignore what the media puts out when it’s only a mouthpiece for the police.

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      You lose points for any deviation from the marching program.

      Judge in your path, roll him with your flute. Cop tries to arrest the drum mayor, blast those drums and horns louder.

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    I wanna know why they wanted the bands to stop so bad, and why he refused to let them stop. I’d love to know what the video really shows and how much was actually explained.

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    Well, if this happened in front of an entire high school band, one of the band members was most likely recording the incident and whomever is in the right will come out slightly richer.

    Reminds me when my band practiced street marching before a big parade. We marched through a residential area playing the song we were going to use. A cop car came an pulled over the band, requested our parade license, and when we didn’t have one, escorted us in silence back to the school. Probably the first time that cop had pulled over 200 people at the same time sans vehicle.

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      That’s so cop. Who’s harmed by the band? Who’s helped by the removal?

      Also, I would frickin’ love it if a marching band came down the too-quiet street in front of my house. Well, long as it wasn’t a daily occurrence.

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        IMO that should be one of those cases where if no one complains then no harm no foul, but if someone does complain, then the police are right to stop it. A lot of those bylaws are really about settling disputes so that they don’t turn violent rather than strictly prohibiting behaviours.

        And cops who go around enforcing them without receiving a complaint are just power trippers or neurodivergent in a way that makes them obsess about following rules (who shouldn’t be given any real power).