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I guess the press in the USSR was also capitalist controlled because the propaganda there was so blatantly false people made fun of it constantly.
Lenin really didn’t get how a vanguard party is just another form of bourgeoisie power.
well, the USSR was state capitalism masquerading as Communism.
Didn’t the USSR start out with planned economy and switch to state capitalism after Stalin? I can’t recall rn though it was definitely a planned economy at some point. It wasn’t ever socialist though.
Everything belongs to the people, and as an avatar of the people’s collective will… everything belongs to me.
So what’s the alternative? State controlled media? Because that’s never used to push narratives and agendas.
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The more voices the better. State run, private, individual. Break up large conglomerates like Sinclair. Reintroduce fairness doctrine.
I don’t get how the fairness doctrine ever was able to be removed
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Regulation on businesses and corporate spend.
You can have free press if you limit who can influence it. From both corporations and the state.
Prevent monopolies and the consolidation of news media. Promote dissenting opinions. Promote smaller news organizations and promote discussion.
That’s the elephant in the room that communists always conveniently overlook.
“There never was real communism/socialism! We need to really move the means of production” - yeah and who will organize it? Who will ensure the organizers won’t just take it themselves? Because that’s what happened in every attempt.
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The larger they get the more prone they are to becoming problematic. HOAs are a great example of this and require way fewer people before it’s an absolute shit show.
They pay workers significantly less than capitalist competition though. Somewhat contradicts the bad capitalist exploiter narrative.
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The Lack also means whoever has a gun controls the press/propaganda as all authoritative regimes have shown. This includes all Communist regimes to date, they have killed ANY internal critics.
Modern Socialist regimes in Europe are to be admired, but Communism requires violent overthrow as a doctrine, and every instance of it’s implementation has resulted in a Totalitarian government.
Democratic Implementation is required for successful humanitarian overhaul. Anything else is a dice role versus dictatorship. One that Russia has lost repeatedly, and China has never escaped. Their Authoritarian history has been definitive.
Uhm, what socialist regimes? I can’t see a single one.
Norway, Sweden, Netherlands, and Spain have implemented Socialist policies much to the benefit of their populace and government.
There are also likely more that I don’t know about.
No country dares to have a free market like America has. In most of Europe, consumer rights are way higher. Same for worker‘s rights and for more rights for people with any sort of disorder.
Most of Europe is a socialist paradise compared to the US…
I wouldn’t get too excited about the socialist policies of many European countries. We’re seeing waves and waves of far right wing politicians sneaking their way into office across the board and many countries’ policies have been under sustained attack for decades as a result of corporate interests.
So let’s just not have free press then. Got it.
This was a bad argument then and it’s a bad argument now.
Either a publication can be trusted or it can’t.
The difference is that a government that stands in the middle of free press inherently makes it impossible to trust that press. The only thing a government can and should do is provide a safe (free of the fear of the loss of life, privilege or property) area for people to engage in discussion. People seeking honesty will have to rigorously find it or have the ability to choose who they allow to find it on their behalf.
Capitalists will absolutely try to muddy the waters and people must be prepared for it.
“Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty”
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In India, the media controlled by the corporates is the literal subliminal propaganda machinery for the government.
