• CorrodedCranium@lemmy.fmhy.ml
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    1 year ago

    Thanks for adding those links. It’s interesting to see both perspectives. I kind of agree with both sides to a degree, it’s unfortunate all around.

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      I don’t. The answer is for beehaw to bring on more admins and work through the increase of traffic.

      Just as lemmy is catching on, beehaw throws a wrench in things and makes the experience worse and more confusing for people. It’s self centered and selfish. It’s not thinking about what’s best for lemmy as a whole.

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        Yeah, I left Beehaw. I understand what they’re trying to do, but I think they shouldn’t have tried to grow so much if they were intent on being such a walled garden. There was so much conversation on Reddit for people to come to Beehaw, and now the rug gets pulled out.

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          Beehaw almost reminds of Tildes in that regard. They want to be their own safe, insular community. That’s totally fine, but the fact that at first Beehaw seemed to want to grow and be a big part of the community before abruptly changing their mind is the frustrating part.

          If they weren’t one of the largest instances OR if they were just that way from the beginning it would have been much more understandable and less frustrating.

          I was super into their philosophy at the beginning, but this abrupt change is disappointing.

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        Could this be a temporary measure on their part until Lemmy adds better moderation tools or they can recruit more moderators to keep some sort of positive control?

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          You should see the laundry list of demands they have. They’re an admin team of 4 who grew their server to be the 3rd largest on lemmy, then decided it was too much work.

          It’s so self-centered.

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      As somebody who started with a Beehaw account (and still has it, since things may get reconciled down the road) I’m mainly annoyed at how it was just plopped suddenly on the community.

      The Beehaw admins had a lengthy post full of vague allusions to bad behavior by .world members without specifics. I think a sensible first step would have been to contact .world admins and attempt a dialog to determine baseline behavior on both sides users. It might not have worked but the fact that it apparently never crossed the Beehaw admin’s minds tells me how they view others.

      The second factor is the Beehaw admins have multiple huge posts about building a community. With the lack of concrete rules and the huge change defederation causes, it would have been more in line with their ethos to put up a poll for users or discussion thread before defederating to get community input.

      Finally in the post regarding the defederation, anybody who voiced opposition or even skepticism of defederation was painted as part of the problem. A pattern with Beehaw admins I’ve noticed is that when people ask specifics on how they will apply being nice and post examples of contentious arguments that might happen, the admins say that even asking the question is a “self report” sign of not being a suitable member of the community.

      If Beehaw admins see this post, I stand behind it, I just saw no sense in flaming arguments in their own thread which was clearly an after action review and not open to taking critical notes.

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        The second factor is the Beehaw admins have multiple huge posts about building a community. With the lack of concrete rules and the huge change defederation causes, it would have been more in line with their ethos to put up a poll for users or discussion thread before defederating to get community input.

        Is there an easy way to poll people in an instance on Lemmy?

        Finally in the post regarding the defederation, anybody who voiced opposition or even skepticism of defederation was painted as part of the problem. A pattern with Beehaw admins I’ve noticed is that when people ask specifics on how they will apply being nice and post examples of contentious arguments that might happen, the admins say that even asking the question is a “self report” sign of not being a suitable member of the community.

        I missed that part

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        Hypersensitivity turned hypertoxic from the sounds of it…

        A safe place for the right narrative!