Italy’s far-right prime minister has said she will not allow the country to become “Europe’s refugee camp”, after thousands of people seeking refuge landed on its shores, prompting France to tighten controls at its border with Italy.

Giorgia Meloni told the UN general assembly in New York that the huge numbers arriving in Lampedusa, a tiny Sicilian island that for years has been the first port of call for people crossing a perilous stretch of the Mediterranean Sea from north Africa, had placed Italy “under incredible pressure”.

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    Yeah, they would.

    As soon as you let emotion dictate your argument, you lose all credibility to rational people. You’re not thinking clearly and won’t make rational decisions because you can’t control your emotions.

    You’re barking up the wrong tree here, buddy.

    I’m not here to please you. Lol.

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      It’s an expression.

      But well, it’s good to know that you have such an understanding attitude to nazis, but don’t think you’re talking for ‘rational people’ when you think politics and emotions are completely detached. It just means you don’t understand the fundamentals of politics.

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        You’re right. Arguing emotion over reason is definitely a rational thing to do and people should take you seriously for doing it.

        My bad.

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          Yes exactly, I’m right, at least you got that much. Politics isn’t perfectly rational, humans aren’t perfectly rational. Emotions are a part of politics, since politics deal with human society and humans are emotional. Sometimes emotions triumph over reason.

          The most surface level observation of politics would reveal that…

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            I’m sorry you feel that way and justified in choosing emotion over reason.

            I guess that’s why you’re not a very rational person and shouldn’t be taken seriously by rational people.

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              Of course I’m emotional sometimes, I’m a human not a fucking robot. You have the mind of a child or simply deeply autistic.

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                Yeah, but rational people won’t let their emotions guide their arguments, or at least acknowledge it as such and pivot towards more reasonable approaches.

                The fact you can’t control your emotions is a testament to why you’re irrational and should not be taken seriously by rational people.

                Sorry this needs to be spelled out for you.

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                  Of course they do. There is not a rational person out there who is not guided by their emotions sometimes. That is what it’s to be human. The one exception is people suffering from severe autism who simply can not comprehend emotions.

                  Now, I’m starting to understand that maybe you have some such diagnosis, which would explain the difficulty in this discussion. I don’t know what else to say, but I think there are support groups out there that help with understanding emotions. r/autism is one I know of.

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                    Sorry you feel that way. It’s pretty clear you’re going to twist your brain into knots to believe that losing control of your emotions is a good thing.

                    Autism or other neurodivergent conditions has nothing to do with it. If you want to be taken seriously by rational people, you need to be able to control your emotions.

                    The fact this needs to be spelled out for you is a testament to why you shouldn’t be taken seriously. You’re just trying to insult me because you don’t want to admit when you’re wrong.

                    I see it all the time.