Gonna be a bunch of women in prison for this. That’s wild.
It is absolutely bizarre to me, that we as a society will be taking away the freedom of select women and locking them away with actual criminals simply because they chose to act on their right to bodily autonomy.
It’s bizarre to me that some women voted for this.
“I’ll never need one.” Until they do.
And then they assume an exception has or will be there for them because theirs is morally justified because they’re good people, and everyone else is a sinner.
They never even take the time to consider the needs of the women within their own “tribe.”  They are simply brainwashed.
This, we like to talk about men making decisions on women’s reproductive rights. But if it wasn’t wasn’t for women this wouldn’t have passed.
If I wasn’t for men it wouldn’t have even been introduced or gained this momentum. If it wasn’t for misogyny this wouldn’t have passed.
While there is a place for it, my issue with saying misogyny in this context is that it’s a vague, loaded and nebulous term that people project their own meanings to and detracts from the nuances of the reasons that lead women to support anti abortion legislation in the first place. I don’t think the sociological forces can simply be explained away by saying its misogyny, there are women that sincerely believe abortions are unethical.
It’s not the belief that abortions are unethical that is misogynistic. It’s the belief that your ethics on abortion give you the right to take away another person’s right to make decisions about their body based on THEIR ethics, because they are women.
Don’t believe me? Imagine a law that forces every healthy person to donate blood. Why does that sound ridiculous when the risks of blood donation are far less, and the number of lives it could save far higher? Or donating a kidney, which carries similar risk-per-life?
The answer: because it wouldn’t only be women affected.
You can weave together theory all day, the fact is that the average voters won’t even care to understand. Much less if you go up to women who support anti abortion legislation and start calling them misogynist, they look at the world through a completely different lense, and they will not take anything you have to say seriously.
And those women are also misogynistic.
Why, why, why…
These women should not be allowed to do anything but pop out kids, fuck, make food and watch their damn mouth.
I do not suffer a woman to speak - some Bible verse.
We really should be cyber bullying these bitches nonstop just saying.
Your parents failed you, and they failed us too. Get therapy.
Just like the war on drugs. We locked up so many people for smoking a joint or having a speck of cocaine on them. As if these are the people who are a danger to society (most of the time).
And Congress critters enjoy all the drugs they want while also playing underage females with them (Gaetz).
Autonomy is always at the discretion of rich old white men.
That’s not 100% accurate. Some of them aren’t rich, several of them aren’t old, and a few of them aren’t white.
The girl was 7 months pregnant at the time of abortion and they burned the body. This isn’t normal at all.
Which wouldn’t have been necessary at all if Republicans weren’t all up in her vagina in the first place.
Cremation isn’t unusual.
It will be.
Damn and Facebook ratted them out
That’s honestly one of the least surprising parts
Maybe all the “I have nothing to hide” folks will get why people were harping on privacy all these years.
It seemed like society was slowly but surely moving forward overall then 2016 happened and everything went to shit. Just like everyone paying even a tiny amount of attention knew it would. Fuck this is sad.
It’s been going downhill for a while now. Not just 2016 We just didn’t notice.
For me it started in 2001. The 90s were pretty rad.
The 90s were the peak of our society (thus far). We could have been a little less homophobic, but besides that, things were pretty great.
Yeah I mean a small part of me even misses calling things “gay”. Not because they’re actually gay or because homophobes think it’s a bad thing thus an insult, but because it described something in a way that no other term has since. You didn’t casually call something gay because it was queer, you called it gay because it was a kind of lame, goody two-shoes thing. I don’t think we should bring back calling things gay, but I do miss having a word to describe that sentiment.
It started with Nixon but Reagan had the eighties. Rad in a bad way.
"Celeste Burgess was released from Madison county jail earlier this month, after serving a little more than half of her 90-day sentence, local Nebraska news outlet KTIV reported. At her sentencing, Celeste Burgess said that her family could not have afforded a funeral for fetal remains, according to Courthouse News. (In a financial affidavit obtained by Vice, Jessica Burgess said she had $400 to her name.) Celeste Burgess also reportedly deals with multiple mental health issues and became pregnant due to an abusive relationship.
Jessica Burgess was set to undergo a court-ordered psychological evaluation ahead of her sentencing. But the evaluation was canceled due to lack of funding, according to KTIV."
“Lack of Funding” is something I read far too often for this economy.
Wealth hoarding is going to cast the rest of us into abject poverty, and we can’t really do anything about it. We live in a dystopian political drama, and it fucking BLOWS
They can skip psychological evaluations ordered by a court to ensure justice is done because the state doesn’t have enough money, but if you’re a poor woman who can’t afford a funeral for something that was never a person, get fucked and go to prison.
Court documents in the case revealed that Facebook’s parent company Meta supplied police with the private Facebook messages that Celeste and Jessica Burgess had sent one another.
She’s in prison because Meta read their messages.
this isn’t acceptable
one more reason to get off of any social media and especially meta
People should crowdfund an escape plan for that lady and deliver justice by keeping her free. Fuck the law if it’s wrong.
Welcome to Nebraska home of the evangelical grand inquisitor
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Jessica Burgess, a Nebraska mother accused of helping her teenage daughter use pills to end her pregnancy, was sentenced on Friday to two years in prison.
According to prosecutors, after the pair bought pills to end the pregnancy, Celeste Burgess gave birth to a stillborn fetus.
Jessica Burgess pleaded guilty in July to charges of false reporting, providing an abortion after 20 weeks of gestation, and concealing, removing or abandoning a dead human body.
Although the case occurred before the US supreme court overturned Roe v Wade, it has been seen as a harbinger of how law enforcement may prosecute people for ending their own pregnancies in a post-Roe era – and how giant tech companies could go along with it.
Celeste Burgess was released from Madison county jail earlier this month, after serving a little more than half of her 90-day sentence, local Nebraska news outlet KTIV reported.
Celeste Burgess also reportedly deals with multiple mental health issues and became pregnant due to an abusive relationship.
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This is horrible. Any chance of this travesty getting appealed?
Facebook “private” DMs. It’s not just a theory, Orwell is here.
Well after 20 weeks. Well after five months. Is it still a “clump of cells” at 20 weeks?
These two women would likely be in prison anywhere in Europe which tends to have shorter term limits on abortion.
Also lol at ending the article by decrying the fact Nebraska now imposes a 12 week ban. The same as that famous anti-woman regressive Gilead-esque shithole Germany.
If it is inside of a woman’s body and reliant on her to be alive, then it has nothing to do with anyone else. It’s a parasite she can decide to excise from her body.
You can’t force someone to give blood or an organ to another person, why are you allowed to force a woman to keep something inside her body?
Clump of cells or not, it’s still the mother’s choice whether to keep hosting it.
These two women would have been able to access abortion services much earlier in the pregnancy, if they were in Europe instead of Oklahoma. This case is the kind of thing that restricting access to legal abortion early in pregnancies causes. This is the fault of the Oklahoma abortion bans
It literally doesn’t matter, women have the right to end a pregnancy no matter what part of the process they’re at.
Women do not owe you babies. Women’s rights are more important than fetuses’ rights.
So, you’re in contractions, you’re dilated. But you say you know what I don’t want this baby abort it.
This sounds fine to you?
Yes. Especially after everything the right wing has done. Give them all the dead babies they feared purposefully to spite them.
Women do not owe the world babies and you are not entitled to reproduce.
Psychotic sadism. Par for the course for feminists and wokesters.
Women do owe the world babies. And men can’t be pushed out of decisions regarding procreation.
Wrong on two counts there, hoss. No one owes you a baby. You get zero say in reproduction. That’s how being a male in the world works. Don’t like it, too bad.
How wonderful and equitable. The woman is solely in charge in whether or not she’ll kill my baby moments from birth.
You demonic whore. Your time is coming to an end cunt. Normal people will not tolerate this degenerate bullshit much longer.
The future belongs to us Christians and we’re not at all sure we want you in it.
It’s what you deserve for subjugating millions of women and imposing a police state in the south to force women to make your babies for you.
You demonic whore.
Aww, stop. You flatter me. 😈
Your time is coming to an end cunt.
The future belongs to us Christians and we’re not at all sure we want you in it.
I am 100% screenshotting this. This is the biggest alt-right lolcow I’ve seen in a long time.
Fuck the fetus.
Demonic.
It is way more than a clump of cells at 20 weeks. 20 weeks is when you do the huge ultrasound to make sure everything is developing how it should. My wife and I did a 20 week ultrasound for our first kid back in July and it looks just like a baby; you can see fingers, toes, facial structure, etc. The baby is kicking and rolling around through the whole thing.
It’s funny you get downvoted because you are right. Anyone who has a kid or knows how babies develop would never want abortions allowed at 20 weeks except in certain circumstances. Europe has a 12 week ban for a reason. Europe is only progressive here when it fits their narrative.
Nope sorry. Read the other comments here. It’s a parasite that the woman can chose to excise at any point up until birth.
This is progressive and humane and in no way monstrous and psychotic.
Most people here are edgy teenagers, people who have never been pregnant, or people who don’t even know the whole process of how babies are made and grow. I’m very pro abortion but if you need till 20 weeks to decide to get an abortion then that’s on you. 6 week limits are bullshit because you probably don’t even know you’re pregnant but by 12 weeks you’ll know and have ample time if you decide to want one.
or people who don’t even know the whole process of how babies are made
I know you’re talking about the actual cellular development into a human being, rather than what happens before that, but this made me chuckle.
This shiti article gets reposted to rile up people but people actually read it and see the facts, they realize that click bait title is hardly supported by the facts.
Didn’t they also dispose of the remains in some unsavory way?
The abortion debate in the US is psychotic. On one end you have prolifers that want to ban Plan B and some would definitely like to ban contraceptives too.
On the other end you have rabid prochoicers who support the idea that abortion should be an elective procedure with (almost) no limits.
Whereas, in most of Europe, we seem to have figured it out. Set a sensible limit somewhere around 12-14 weeks, allow a lot exceptions when the mother’s health in threatened or for cases of rape and incest, and that’s it. It works.
But, something else is at play here, which is that many extreme feminists don’t want any kind of equality but power. The demand to be able to terminate a pregnancy with no limits is a demand to be solely in control of human reproduction.
Oh fuck you, stop lying. The vast majority of Americans agree on reasonable abortion restrictions.
“When asked about the legality of abortion at different stages of pregnancy, about two-thirds of Americans say it should be legal in the first trimester (69%), while support drops to 37% for the second trimester and 22% for the third. Majorities oppose abortion being legal in the second (55%) and third (70%) trimesters.”
https://news.gallup.com/poll/321143/americans-stand-abortion.aspx
No but but but both sides are equally bad, and what about them eXtReMe FeMiNiStS??!!??!!¿¿
I wasn’t talking about the majority of Americans but about the prochoice activists like the ones here who have informed us that a 20 week old fetus is a parasite that can be killed at any time, solely at the woman’s discretion.
Whereas, in most of Europe, we seem to have figured it out. Set a sensible limit somewhere around 12-14 weeks, allow a lot exceptions when the mother’s health in threatened or for cases of rape and incest, and that’s it. It works.
Like hell it does. Women in Europe do not have bodily autonomy. You don’t need a special justification to decide what happens to your own body.
Histrionic with characteristics of paranoia and psychosis.
LOL. Your weird attempt at internet fighting is a word salad. It’s genuinely pleasing when unpleasant people make fools of themselves. So please give that one another try.
What kind of discussion can I have with someone who thinks fetuses are parasites and should be able to be killed anytime before birth?
You are psychotic and you need to check yourself into a mental hospital where you’ll get the help you need.
When I said try again, I meant try another attack, not do the same one again. It didn’t get any better the second time around. I’m game for round three if you want though. Like I said, comments like this from people like you really do brighten my day.
Chomping at the bit for a both sides false equivalency? Interesting that you’d find it when the basic rights of a whole class of people are on the line.
Murdering a nearly developed unborn child is not a basic right. I fully support abortion up to 14 weeks. That’s more than enough time to decide if you want to abort or carry the pregnancy to term. The idea that you should be able to “abort” up the point of birth is psychotic and evil.
So you’re using bible-thumping fetus fanatic language and fallacies to defend your “moderate” position.
Just admit it, you want to ban abortion
I didn’t even know I was pregnant until 12 weeks or more.
Stop being fat.
Wtaf? I was and am skinny, and that’s a fat-phobic and misogynistic comment
Itt: ignorant people do not* know there’s no baby bump until 3+ months. Gross 🤮
- Corrected
Look, at the end of the day, you chose to have sex, you chose to take on the possible consequences of having sex. In today’s modern world you have contraceptives, you have the Plan B pill. And you have sensible limit abortion of up to 14 weeks.
All of these are just convenient “get out of jail free cards” but it’s really up to a woman to not let just anyone rawdog her pussy.
I’m sorry but society can’t be organised solely around the idea of allowing every woman to avoid the consequences of her actions every time. Past a certain point (around 15 weeks) the fetus is no longer a clump of cells but a living being that does and should have have rights.
We agree that’s pretty sort of you.
The point is: I was married, chose to deliver and still realize how hateful this is.
ETA and I was on contraceptives when I got pregnant. Which people of your ilk would also like to make illegal.
My mind read “monster” instead of “mother”. So I was surprised to find that the monster in this story is the mother, not.
The monster is restriction on reproductive freedom
The monsters are:
- the police
- the judge
- the legal system making this possible
I’m sure Melon Husk can find a way to get in on this.
How many kids? How many baby mamas?
If I get a PM on Twitter with more serious stuff, I immediately send Discord ans Signal links instead. I don’t want to risk any Elongated Muskrat moments…
Go check privacy on discord lol
