• ivanafterall@kbin.social
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    9 months ago

    I swear there was one guy who predicted this in a post here like right after the fire happened. He even said it sounded crazy/conspiratorial and here we are.

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      I remember that and thinking he was probably right but hoped maybe something good would happen. That was foolish clearly

    • June
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      I mean, I don’t think the fire was set for this purpose, but this is exactly what a capitalist does in a situation like this.

      It’s not conspiratorial to recognize how profiteers will see a tragedy as an opportunity.

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      Reminds me of the one time I came home with the book “Shock Doctrine” and my lolbertarian roommate loled and called it a conspiracy theory.

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    In illegally occupied Hawaii, the goal has always been genocide of the indigenous. The UN needs to kick the USA out of Hawaii.

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      Not like it matters since you’re a tankie and all you want to do is sow discord by shitting on the “libs” and the west," but the rebuilding of Lahaina threatens to permanently displace everyone who lives there, and not just the 10% of the residents who happen to be indigenous. Do you know anything about the place you’re using to push pro-Russian (and, ironically, its denial of genocide when committed by communist countries) propaganda? Lahaina is full of poor people, you ignorant fuck. The entire town of the 13,000 is not only poor, but JFC, they are now homeless and mostly jobless because the fire destroyed everything. That town is totally fucked, man, and you’re using its suffering to rile up and disenfranchise more people for your pro-Russia bullshit? Fuck off.

      Like I said, you don’t give a fuck about the people who live there, and you certainly don’t give a fuck about actual genocide - especially genocide that is happening right now. So get fucked and go post your fascist recruitment garbage elsewhere. And tell your Hexblyat buddies they can go eat shit too.

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        This is just too rich. The brain worms really got you.

        Yeah the displacement of the poor on Hawaii is a function of capitalism. The only form of capitalism in the West is racialized capitalism. Racialized capitalism is built on illegal occupation, slave labor, genocide, and ecocide.

        Stating facts about the history of Hawaii and the illegal occupation of it by the USA is not in any way pro-Russian. I have no idea what your ranting about with that.

        Do I give a fuck about the white settlers living in occupied Hawaii? Not really. They are reaping what was sown.

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      9 months ago

      Lemmygrad users are very creative at finding unexpected and loopy new ways to criticize the American government.

  • AutoTL;DR@lemmings.worldB
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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    HONOLULU (AP) — Residents who survived the wildfire that leveled the Hawaii town of Lahaina might not be able to afford to live there after it is rebuilt unless officials alter the zoning laws and make other changes, economists warned Friday.

    Soaring housing prices have already forced many Native Hawaiians and other longtime Hawaii residents to leave the islands and move to the U.S. mainland.

    The wildfire that claimed at least 97 lives and destroyed 2,200 buildings in the West Maui community of Lahaina — 86% of which were residential — amplifies that problem for the survivors.

    A spike in housing costs would be a further burden for people — including retirees and those who worked in restaurants, hotels and shops — who lost their homes and jobs when their places of employment burned to the ground on Aug. 8, or when West Maui temporarily closed to tourism after the disaster.

    At a news conference on Thursday at the state Capitol, Green stressed that the displaced survivors won’t be forced out of hotels to make room for tourists, with October typically being a slow month for tourism.

    “Outsiders should not have the opportunity to grab land or properties because emotions are running high, so everyone is vulnerable,” Melody Lukela-Singh, whose home on Lahaina’s renowned Front Street burned, said recently.


    The original article contains 817 words, the summary contains 219 words. Saved 73%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!

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    This is something to keep an eye on from this disaster. I hope some good policy and solutions get put in place to get proper housing back in place for the working locals.

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    To be honest there are millions of Americans who are juuuust fortunate enough to have bought a home at an economic low (think 2008), who could not possibly “buy” their own home today. This isn’t unique to Hawaii, but I’d obviously a massive issue.

    I myself live in a home I bought for a quarter of its current value, and would be hard pressed to buy it today, especially if I had just experienced a massive loss.

    One hopes this is where insurance comes in, but we know how that goes.

    This content doesn’t even touch renting.

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    Did they not have insurance? Shouldn’t they have ample money to rebuild? I don’t understand.

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      “Market prices for this new housing are likely to far exceed the already high prices that existed in Lahaina before the fire. For renters, the old housing stock that was destroyed provided opportunities for reasonable rents,”

      I think this is the issue. Poor folks live in older buildings. Can’t rebuild new old, run-down cheap neighborhoods.

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          Your questions didn’t upset me; they’re answered plainly in the article you’re responding to.

          The issue isn’t people who own the property not being able to rebuild, the issue is people who were renting there likely being unable to afford to rent there after it’s rebuilt, because the prices were previously low due to the age of the buildings, and it’s almost entirely not zoned for multi-family dwellings.

          If you aren’t even going to read the article you’re talking about, how are we supposed to interpret your questions, if not as being stupid?

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            No, u got mad

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            Don’t feed the trolls.