• Krause [he/him]@lemmygrad.ml
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    zelensky started purging them from the military

    when did this happen?

    edit: found a source here

    NEVER, IT NEVER HAPPENED

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    This is why education is so fucking important. Assuming this person is telling the truth, then they don’t know what Nazi symbols look like. That’s a failure of the education of their country to protect them from dangerous people.

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      Meaningless. Ask a Jewish comrade if they deserve the wall and follow their recommendation.

      Who gives a shit about whether a fascist is willing to self-identify. If a person willingly displays fascist iconography, the pit is where they belong.

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        I’ve known about these stupid nazi larp scribbles since being a metalhead in high school and learning about NSBM and how many nazis were infesting the metal scene was but yeah, I have to assume the average person isn’t quite as familiar with silly magic nazi runes

        It’s been wild seeing these things popping up on more and more mainstream contexts

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        Usually when I’m uneducated and someone makes a claim, I do basic research to see if what they’re saying is bullshit. They have no excuse if they’re wasting time defending Ukraine on the internet. Especially since the clown knows enough propaganda talking points to claim that Zelensky purged Nazis

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    How do I make the emojis real big I want to post hte cat screm emoji real big but I need it to represent how extremely cat screm I feel. I AHATJKel;A EW W4RG HQAEW;RLKGHJAEKLRDF;VAEDRFJSV L;KERFV being the person who knows all these fucking symbols and then some gormless liberal creature will go “nuh uh they’re not nazis” and it’s like you fucking credulous, unacceptably ignorant fuck you have no right to be like this all the actors on the stage know what this shit means and all you’re doing is providing shadows for the fascists to hide in you absolute loathsome shitheads fuck.

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    *Checks notes*. *Scribbles over notes* *rewrites notes* *checks notes again* Actually pee pee poo poo

    I only hate reddit-logo lingo because I used to type in it. At some point when I was using that site a lot, years ago, I realized how much that reddit language was making my comments more obnoxious and consciously tried to stop.

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      One point suddenly it seemed like everybody was using ellipses in a specific way in comments, like “That was… not great.” and it drove me nuts, thank you for reminding me how much nicer it is with less of those shit trends.

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    I really can’t figure out how standing in front of a razed city counts as liberating the city.

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        So this is weird, but ‘slava nazi’ means ‘glory to the nation’ in Ukrainian. Like the word ‘nation’ in Ukrainian is literally ‘nazi’.

        Taken from Yandex:

        Nation : нація [ sounds like nazi ]

        Nazi : нацист [ sounds like nazist ]

        So the whole ‘idea of the nation’ thing is really a dog whistle. Nation / Nationalist /Nazi all share the same root word in Ukrainian.

        I’m not a Ukrainian linguist, but that seems a touch problematic, especially for political discourse in that language.

        Kinda explains a lot how this glorification of nazi ideology has been perpetuated within the culture over decades. Their form of nationalism seems to be linguistically connected to nazism.

        sus-torment

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          “Nazi” comes from a shortening of the German “Nationalsozialistische”. The “ti” is pronounced like a “z”. So “Nazi” comes from “National” and anywhere whose “National” sounds like “Nazional” is going to sound like “Nazi” to a non-native speaker. I’m sure “national” is a common loan word in Europe. This guy is probably a Nazi not because of some linguistic connection between “national” and “Nazi” but because he’s a Ukrainian nationalist.

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            I just think the linguistic aspect makes any discussion of ‘nationalism’ almost inseparable from Nazi ideology in languages like this. It’s inherently normalized because there’s not a clear distinction as far as I can tell. There’s not really a way to talk about nation / nationalism that doesn’t carry Nazi linguistic baggage with it. I’m not saying this excuses anything, just that apologia for nazi ideology is linguistically embedded. The word for nazis is basically ‘nationist’. So wanting to protect your nation puts you in the same linguistic terminology.

            It’s kinda like how ‘Patriot’ is pretty sus jingoist term in the USA. It has a technically benign meaning, but it is often used as a dog whistle. Like we all know what is meant by ‘Patriot Front’ for instance.

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              I think that nationalism has Nazi baggage because in practice it is always part of the root of Nazism if not merely a euphemism for it. That’s how it always turns out in practice. That nationalism sounds like “Nazi” isn’t what gives it Nazi qualities, and the reason they sound similar is because the Nazi party was technically the “National” party and their opponents gave them that name. The Nazis were the first to link euro-nationalism with Nazism and they’ve been married ever since. That the words themselves are semi-related is really a tangential point. It’s the history that makes nationalism Nazi, the linguistics merely reflect that.

              Besides, “nation” is used all the time by non-Nazis in neutral ways. I think “they’re the same thing because the words sound like each other” is edging dangerously close to “umm they were National SOCIALISTS.”

              Obviously Ukrainian nationalists are Nazis. But this kind of semantics ain’t it. Nationalism and Nazism are linked through ideology and cannot be separated because of this link (especially in Eastern Europe). Every time some Ukrainian pipes up with their totally non-Nazi “nationalist advocacy group” it’s always going to be tainted by the legacy of their sacred cow Bandera. Ukrainian nationalism will always immediately trigger alarm bells in anyone with a functioning frontal lobe because Ukrainian nationalism is Nazism. The Ukrainians might not like that but they can thank their “patriotic heroes” Bandera and co. Linguistically, it’s a curious etymology case study.

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            Ya, linguistically this isn’t too far off from ‘white’ supremacy. Whiteness and the color white being a representation of purity, cleanliness, angels etc as being related to racist characteristics. Linguistics do indeed be a fuck sometimes.