At this point they could argue that the only nazi ever was Hitler who forced every single person in Germany at gunpoint to do everything he wanted oh wait I just described Great Man theory
Hitler was also doing it because Stalin forced him
Ackshually, Stalin forced everyone on the Earth to do his bidding, except those pesky Ukrainians who had the [redacted] power to resist so he had to use his Spoon on them
The way libs understand history, Hitler was an evil sorcerer who put a spell on the Germans to make them do warcrimes and after he died the spell broke and the Germans became wholesome allies.
truth condensed.
“Think about the American military.”
Yeah dude fuckin think about it.
Honestly at this point I prefer a right winger who defends SS for being just like the US Army to a leftist who defends NATO for being totally not Nazis. At least you know where they stand. Is this the horseshoe I’ve been hearing about?
“leftist”
“Not every civilian in the NAZI Party was a Nazi”.
By definition, yes they were. I have to admit, I don’t think I have ever heard someone make the claim that “the nazi is actually not a nazi” before. They usually try to put a little bit more effort into it.
And by definition every SS soldier was a Nazi because the SS was the paramilitary branch of the actual Nazi party.
They are making this error on purpose, because that’s the only way they can present that an SS soldier wasn’t a Nazi.
True, but as always, reality was even more complex.
Initially, yes absolutely. SS members were absolutely nazis. Exceptions either became nazis very fast or had deadly accidents (being killed by their peers).
As the overture to WW2 started playing, things got muddier. Germany aquired territories whos people were not german citizens according the bonkers laws they had, likewise non-german voluteers started showing up. The problem was that only german citizens could serve in the Wehrtmacht. Fear not, we germans are inventive! So Volksdeutsche (ethnic germans, but not german citizens) tended to get force conscripted into the SS and the SS was more than happy to receive “aryan” volunteers (brits, yanks, nordics, benelux, french).
As the War finally started and soon went bad for germany in the USSR, Germany tried to make sense of various nationalist movements willing to fight for it and the collaborateurs. This repeated the situation mentioned above. With the exact same solution: Collaborateurs went directly to the SS. Teh nationalists posed a problem, they were not exactly “aryan”, but Indian, Bosnia, Serbian, Cossak, Russia, Chechen and so on. So the SS was effectively partitioned: The “aryan” fanatics went to the “chapter SS”(only true with occult bullshit), got the highest status. The collaborateurs and force conscripted guys were footslogger SS scrubs. Leaves the rest. They were grouped into “SS legions” and essentially cannon fodder.
By the end of the war, the force conscription became even weirder. The education minister gifted Hitler (and thus the SS) a entire graduation year of students. Because germany is not only the country of thinkers and poets, sometimes also of stoned thinkers.
Look, unless they were personally convicted at Nuremberg, who can say who was a nazi?
Think about the American military
So about that…
Wow the SS were actually like the US military? That must mean the SS were the good guys, right?!
It frustrates me to no end when people cluelessly argue that since doctors and pencil pushers and janitors are also in militaries, that somehow makes it better and or even a non-violent institution.
The people who make the food for or distribute the salaries of imperialist scum are, by virtue of their material support, also imperialist scum.
Based on this analogy it’s appropriate to call every member of the US and NATO militaries a Nazi.
“Not everyone in the Nazi Party was a Nazi”
These people are nonserious.
Nazism involves stuff like banning people from online forums, hitting people for having different political opinions, saying mean things about white men, promoting feminism and gay rights, opposing the occupation of Palestine, calling for class warfare against the upper classes, and talking about the achievements that Chinese citizens are making regularly.
Just because somebody advocates for a militant, corporate white ethnostate doesn’t make him ‘a Nazi’. That is a preposterous claim to make.
So we’re at the point where libs are claiming that not all Nazi party members were Nazis. Not sure where they go from here
Clean wehrmacht myth is making a comeback.
That myth was only possible because it used the SS as the greater evil.
Yup. It’s deeply jokerifying when I remember how 10 years ago “WW2 enthusiasts” who were suspiciously enthusiastic about the Wehrmacht (which they insisted was not not political, they just like history) would always point to the SS as the designated evil warcriminals while insisting that regular German troops were innocent conscripts. Nazi narratives of WW2 have become so normalized so fast that we are now in the clean SS stage of revisionism. Which is something that 10 years ago we would joke about. What a shitty timeline to live in.
I wonder what they are gonna reference as greater evil when they just coined the clean SS myth.
Oh, silly me, USSR of course.
it’s right in front of you. u SS r
Clean NSDAP. Just a few bad apples.
Comeback implies it had gone away
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From here they go to claiming that being a Nazi can be a good thing.
Nazis aren’t Nazis. Tankies (anyone left of Bernie Sanders) are Nazis.
I’m pretty sure it’s tankies who would be making excuses for Nazis. What “libs” are doing this? All Nazis are and were scum. Especially true for anyone in modern times calling themselves one. I suppose a VERY forgiving person could give some 1930s ones a pass based on some really stretchy reasoning around “they thought it was hyperbole.” Not me.
Save the world, punch a Nazi.
Canada’s Parliament and prime minister, along with Zelensky, gave a standing ovation to a living waffen SS member in Canada as a ‘Ukrainian nationalist that fought against Russia in WW2.’
No one is a tankie. I bet you can’t even define the word. You also apparently are unaware of current events.
I’m a tankie
Imagine being this stupid
I’m pretty sure it’s tankies who would be making excuses for Nazis.
You’re an idiot then.
What “libs” are doing this?
The ones in Canadian parliament, and the thousands upon thousands of their supporters you can easily find defending them.
I’m pretty sure it’s tankies who would be making excuses for Nazis. What “libs” are doing this?
The first thing the Nazi’s did upon obtaining power was exterminate “Tankies” they were let into power by liberals for that express purpose.
What “libs” are doing this?
Justin Trudeau. The Canadian Parliament. And many more defending the SS member they gave a standing ovation to
Sorry fellow Tankies, Justin is one of us now.
The apple finally returns to the tree.
What fucking tankies make excuse for Nazis? Wtf are you talking about? “Tankies” are the ones who destroyed the 3rd reich and liberated the concentration camps you dolt. “Tankies” were the primary target of the Nazis for elimination and their main enemy on the battlefield. Tankies are the least likely group on Earth to support Nazis and will fight them to the death even when everyone else on Earth is tolerating them and collaborating with them. It’s Liberals and centrists and “progressive” soft-leftists who have an extensive history working with Nazis, not “tankies”
Can you name a single instance of political confluence between tankies and fascists? Communists were the first targets of the nazis, the axis powers formally called themselves the “Anti-COMINTERN Pact”.
I could rattle off countless instances of liberals praising, enabling, funding, arming, and befriending fascists, but we’d be here all day.
The only positive thing I can say about nazis is that they are really fun to shoot in video games
What “libs” are doing this?
Literally the guy in the screenshot??? You understand he’s doing this in defense of the Canadian Parliament applauding a guy who was in the SS right?
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A significant number of people in the SS only supported, empowered, and enabled the murder… 🙄
These nazis really don’t want to be recognized as nazis for some reason and I can’t tell why
It’s unfair to call every soldier in the American military an imperialist because only a minority ever see combat.
It’s unfair to call every police officer a bastard because only 40% beat their spouses.
It’s unfair to call the content of a bag of chips chips because most of the bag is filled with air.
It’s unfair to call the contents of my toilet piss because most of it is water.
Oh my god, is this about the Nazi who was applauded in the Canadian House of Commons? Because this is the same argument I’ve been seeing online to try and downplay what actually happened. I saw one person on twitter who explicitly stated they felt bad for the veteran guy because he thought he was going to parliament to be celebrated but now everyone hates him. It’s bad up here.
Literally that skit. I suppose you think the fuhrer is a nazi too?
I know the exact skit you mention, but do you recall where it came from originally?
Like, the entire joke before the skit? No idea
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Technically this is a working class empire. Only "the 1 percent" are Capitalists.
Am I doing it right?recently i spoke to an american conservative who stated that “you cannot punish all the former nazis because not all of them really believed it, they were just in it for some reason”. the western mind must be 70% propaganda and 30% brain.
