Yeah. They need to come back too. Most of the trolls went back to being reddiots. The participation there has been on a hard downward trend since defederating. There are less than 500 per day on there now most days.
Exactly, if an instance loves to censor others so much they should deal with the consequences of less interaction and visibility. lemmy.ml is also dropping off my feed because their devs have beef with Kbin’s dev and they blocked interactions from all Kbin instances.
I was really surprised to hear this, so I dug a little deeper. It looks like an honest mistake.
Here’s what their admin said:
We unintionally did until about 8 hours ago.
Lemmy.ml has a ton of bot crawlers in its nginx logs spam fetching posts, so I added the bots to an nginx block. Turns out one called kbinbot wasn’t actually a crawling bot, but their federation requester.
If we don’t respond quickly, its because we have notification backlogs that are months long at this point.
That’s relieving to hear. I know the backstory of Kbin is that Ernest was originally a Lemmy contributor but he and Lemmy’s devs got into a disagreement about politics, so he went to start his own project instead. There was no communication about the block from Lemmy’s devs for a while so a lot of people, including me, theorized that it was related to the conflict.
Doesn’t matter if they’re dead and their core supporters get discouraged. There are a lot of posts that are just by a dozen or so people with little engagement. That is not sustainable.
It doesn’t have to be active like reddit right? Or even like Lemmy was around the blackouts? A community can remain active even without federating with lemmy.world. People can still sign up for Beehaw and see their posts from other instances (like feddit.uk or the canadian one).
I’m simply commenting about the sustainability and participation. It speaks for itself. I like the community there, but it has gotten less and less interesting as the participation has fallen. I don’t see that changing.
Why don’t you start an account there and help them out, or start an account on an instance that is federated with both if you prefer the community there? I personally disagree with their moderation and don’t like the kind of users they approve of, so I’m happy seeing less of them around.
I prefer a lower rate of posts, it allows subscriptions to more niche communities. One of the worst things about Reddit was if you subscribed to any sub with more than 100000 members it would flood out any smaller subs, which were normally much better content wise.
Plus with a lower rate of posts, each one can receive more attention for the community. Comments can, and have, run for days on Lemmy, something that generally only happened in mega threads on Reddit.
We don’t need growth for growths sake. It is part of the reason I find the arguments for federating with Threads so weak.
Beehaw’s been around for like 2 years. They’ve specifically designed their instance to be a small, heavily moderated community. If anything, the massive growth they were getting a month ago was unsustainable with their existing ethos.
Yeah. They need to come back too. Most of the trolls went back to being reddiots. The participation there has been on a hard downward trend since defederating. There are less than 500 per day on there now most days.
Sounds like federation is working. Beehaw can either get with the program and federation, or shrivel up and fall away.
Exactly, if an instance loves to censor others so much they should deal with the consequences of less interaction and visibility. lemmy.ml is also dropping off my feed because their devs have beef with Kbin’s dev and they blocked interactions from all Kbin instances.
I was really surprised to hear this, so I dug a little deeper. It looks like an honest mistake.
Here’s what their admin said:
That’s relieving to hear. I know the backstory of Kbin is that Ernest was originally a Lemmy contributor but he and Lemmy’s devs got into a disagreement about politics, so he went to start his own project instead. There was no communication about the block from Lemmy’s devs for a while so a lot of people, including me, theorized that it was related to the conflict.
But mod tools have not improved. Anyone could technically still join lemmy.world and troll them which was one of their concerns.
Doesn’t matter if they’re dead and their core supporters get discouraged. There are a lot of posts that are just by a dozen or so people with little engagement. That is not sustainable.
Yes it is. I’ve been on forums with ~20 or so active people and it lasted for years.
I bet you weren’t posting 100 articles a day with a comment or few each.
It doesn’t have to be active like reddit right? Or even like Lemmy was around the blackouts? A community can remain active even without federating with lemmy.world. People can still sign up for Beehaw and see their posts from other instances (like feddit.uk or the canadian one).
I’m simply commenting about the sustainability and participation. It speaks for itself. I like the community there, but it has gotten less and less interesting as the participation has fallen. I don’t see that changing.
Why don’t you start an account there and help them out, or start an account on an instance that is federated with both if you prefer the community there? I personally disagree with their moderation and don’t like the kind of users they approve of, so I’m happy seeing less of them around.
Because they won’t let you. And I’m not writing a full size letter just to join a forum. Is someone really that desperate to join Beehaw?
I prefer a lower rate of posts, it allows subscriptions to more niche communities. One of the worst things about Reddit was if you subscribed to any sub with more than 100000 members it would flood out any smaller subs, which were normally much better content wise.
Plus with a lower rate of posts, each one can receive more attention for the community. Comments can, and have, run for days on Lemmy, something that generally only happened in mega threads on Reddit.
We don’t need growth for growths sake. It is part of the reason I find the arguments for federating with Threads so weak.
Beehaw’s been around for like 2 years. They’ve specifically designed their instance to be a small, heavily moderated community. If anything, the massive growth they were getting a month ago was unsustainable with their existing ethos.
Sounds like they’ve successfully created a safe little echochamber. Wasn’t that the point?
Why would that hinder anyone? If someone wants to troll they’ll just create an account on another instance then.