The fix is simple, just raise taxes! I pay enough in taxes, I pay for my fair share. I would rather end social security and have a private retirement account. Increasing my taxes, once again just shows what a scam it is.

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    3 months ago

    So we should scam more people because the elderly got scammed?

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      3 months ago

      Lol, if anyone’s getting scammed it’s me! People often collect more social security than they put in. I’ve only been paying into since I began working, and have another 30 or so years before I can start collecting.

      So, yes, we should continue paying out social security because our entire society is a scam. It’s the least we can do.

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        3 months ago

        our entire society is a scam

        I’m glad you’re honest about social security and new deal policies. Though I don’t understand why you’d want to double down on them.

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          I’m glad you’re honest about social security and new deal policies.

          Then I’m sorry to disappoint because it’s not fair to attribute such beliefs to me, particularly about the new deal policies, which led to the idealized American past that modern folks pine after, when I didn’t mention them.

          But since you brought 'em up, we should definitely double down on the new deal policies rather than continue to role them back. Lina Khan’s renewed anti-trust efforts are a good, strong first step, but we definitely need way more.

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            3 months ago

            which led to the idealized American past that modern folks pine after, when I didn’t mention them. I don’t think many people idolize the great depression. WW2 ended the great depression.

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              3 months ago

              WW2 ended the great depression.

              TIL. There’s an obvious question though of whether the economic demand of hunting Nazis ended the great depression or some other economic or social policies or a combo of several.

              I guess there’s no way we’ll ever know.

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                  Well hot damn! I looked up that paper and, unlike a lot of right-wing news sources, it’s real and says what it say you say it says.

                  Still though, another resource I use complicates the conclusion of that paper. So, okay, I’ll admit that the New Deal’s economic effects were complicated. Maybe it didn’t lead to the best economic times in America? It obviously couldn’t have been the war because the war ended. Maybe the war gave it a sort of start…but what was actually sustained until the 1970s?

                  TIL x2, and I stand corrected again. Every time, I just gonna make a link to the last time I was corrected in this community, because why not.

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                    3 months ago

                    What sustained us? A common theory I’ve heard is WW2. Most the world had to rebuild from WW2 which gave us many years economic prosperity.

                    I’m not sure if it’s true. I tend to disagree but I think it may be a valid explanation. We didn’t suffer the loses of Japan, Germany, Russia, etc.

                    While we lost lives, our country was relatively untouched. Japan occupied parts of Alaska, attacked Oregon a few times but really we didn’t experience the infrastructure losses the other countries did.

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      3 months ago

      That is the issue. The system doesn’t work. It is just a wealth transfer which I am against.

      I would support taking the 12% and putting it into a private retirement account.

      It is unfair to ask the top 5% or 50% to pay for the bottom 50%. I already pay more than my fair share of taxes. People won’t take taxation seriously until they feel the pain. Spreading the pain across everyone may cause people to stop demanding more spending.

      We have a spending problem in this country and it can’t be solved by taxation.