As read by ORF on the broadcast right now, McLaren PR has reached out to media with a statement that they did not invite Donald Trump into their garage.

Trump came for an unannounced visit shortly before the start of the Miami GP.

  • @WatTyler@lemmy.zip
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    McLaren PR put out some BS about ‘respecting the office’. That cunt didn’t respect his own office, nor those he swore to serve. He has publicly said and done undeniably reprehensible things. I’m fucking sick of the type of people who feel they’re too polite to be political and then are ‘dismayed’ by the direction society is headed in.

    Zak, if you wanna degrade yourself, do it away from one of Britain’s most venerated sporting institutions, for fuck’s sake.

    • I’m fucking sick of the type of people who feel they’re too polite to be political

      In this case you’re talking about an international sports event and the team is not american. Why do you expect them to take a strong stand against a former US president?

      • @originalfrozenbanana
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        Because he is a fascist and I expect everyone to take a strong stand against fascists

        • @RidcullyTheBrown@lemmy.world
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          it’s a bit rich to play this card with a foreign team judging by what the current polls show in the US. How about you guys sort your own shit first and then start pointing fingers ? It’s not McLaren who made Trump president and it’s weird to expect them to involve themselves in your presidential race regardless of your feelings towards the candidates.

          • @originalfrozenbanana
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            Yeah you’re right. Everyone should be able to smile and gladhand with fascists as long as they’re someone ELSE’S fascists. /s

            If Putin or Margaret thatcher (May she burn in hell) showed up in the Yankees’ dugout I’d expect them treat them like a fascist. Stop being so precious about a sport.

            • @RidcullyTheBrown@lemmy.world
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              If Putin or Margaret thatcher (May she burn in hell) showed up in the Yankees’ dugout I’d expect them treat them like a fascist. Stop being so precious about a sport.

              oh, sure they would. Like Haas, an american team, racing in Rusia and meeting Putin without any issues until the entire competition had to stop due to international sanctions. Get off your high horse mate, you’re getting dizzy from the hotter air

                • @RidcullyTheBrown@lemmy.world
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                  oh, are you mad at that? Are you so mad that you forgot it happened when you claimed it would never happen?

                  You’re just being childish and unreasonable. You’re probably the type of person who would have claimed McLaren has no business getting involved with politics is they refused to let Biden in.

                  • @originalfrozenbanana
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                    “Not wanting fascists in my sports” is childish? Man this is fast cars driven by rich kids. This is billionaires measuring dicks. This sport is incredible but it isn’t so important that I’d give my team (not McLaren lol) a pass because I like their vroom vroom the best.

                    Every accusation is a confession. I think mixing politics and sports is fine. Great, actually. Morally correct, even. Sending black and Jewish athletes to the 1936 Olympics was political. Black athletes in the US kneeling for the anthem was political. Megan Rapinoe advocating for trans athletes is political. Hamilton wearing a pride flag in Qatar was political. McLaren accepting Trump IS POLITICAL. The difference between Trump and Biden showing up in the pit is that Biden is not an insurrectionist fascist. I think that matters, but I guess that distinction is childish to you? My guy you need to take a fucking breath.

            • @jimbolauski
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              You need to be convicted of a sex crime to be a sex offender. Otherwise Biden is a child molester.

                • @jimbolauski
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                  That’s a civil case not a criminal. There are significant differences in civil cases being awarded vs criminal convictions. A majority believing something happened vs every juror believing something happened beyond a reasonable doubt.

                  • @darharrison
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                    Can’t say I’d be willing to die on the hill you’re on - go off king !!

          • @darharrison
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            If you employed critical thinking for once in your life you’d know

      • @TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world
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        Not being American doesn’t mean you have to be passive about Trump.

        I’m not Russian but I still fucking hate Putin and would be happy to take a stand against him.

        • @RidcullyTheBrown@lemmy.world
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          i’m sure you’d do that individually, but not in an official capacity. This comparison is very funny, F1 used to race in Sochi and Putin himself handed over the trophies. This only stopped when international sanctions were placed on Rusia. There are none on Trump so no, an F1 team cannot cause an international incident by itself. Stop pretending you don’t understand this

          • @AAA@feddit.de
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            Throwing out / denying access to a civilian is not “causing an international incident”.

            Just as their PR can write up a calm statement why he was allowed, they could have come up with a calm statement why he wasn’t.

            Sports was never and will never be not political. See your Putin example, or the last world cup, or the taking a knee protests,…

            • @Woozythebear@lemmy.world
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              The fuck you mean sports isn’t political? So I guess saying the national anthem while having jets flying above isn’t political…

              The Olympics deciding who can and can’t compete based on what their countries government is doing isn’t political…

              • @AAA@feddit.de
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                Maybe you read that sentence again:

                Sports was never and will never be not political.

          • @TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world
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            I’m sure you’d do that individually, but not in an official capacity.

            I’d do that in either capacity. I’ve told far nicer people than Putin to fuck off as part of work, sometimes against the wishes of my superiors.

            This comparison is very funny, F1 used to race in Sochi and Putin himself handed over the trophies.

            What’s the relevance? I wasn’t fine with it then. And neither were some in F1, Lewis, for example, refused to shake his hand and was cold with him in Sochi after the 2014 invasion of Crimea.

            This only stopped when international sanctions were placed on Rusia.

            You don’t need to tell me that the FIA is corrupt and loves dictators. I know that already.

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                What a fucking ludicrous question. Jesus Christ.

                I like the Olympics as an event, despite the corruption of the Olympic committee and presence of awful dictatorships.

                People like football despite FIFA being corrupt as fuck, taking bribes from dictatorships, and being ok with literal slavery.

                And yes, I like F1 despite the FIA being just as corrupt.

                If you’re trying to phrase this as hypocrisy, it isn’t. It’s possible to like something while also disliking an aspect of it.

                Maybe you believe that in order to like F1 you must like the FIA/everything they do, as well as any dictator they pander to, but I think you’d be in the minority with that take.

                • you are taking a hypocritical position though. As per your claims, you’re well aware of FIA and Liberty Media’ corruption and money grabbing schemes, but somehow you draw the line at a perfectly innocent event in which McLaren has landed. This is hypocritical

                  • @TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world
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                    There’s zero hypocrisy. I don’t understand your argument that there is.

                    Me: I don’t like some of the things the FIA does, they are corrupt as an organisation. I don’t like how McLaren welcomed someone like Trump into their garage.

                    You: HYPOCRISY!!!

                    There’s no hypocrisy. I’m allowed to dislike aspects of a sport I watch, you muppet.