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    Tbh, a cure for cancer is a little like finding a cure for all respiratory infections. You’re talking about a pathology that encompasses hundreds of distinct diseases. Sure, maybe it is doable, but calling it a moonshot is a little generous; landing on the moon would be several orders of magnitude easier by comparison, imo.

    Just so I’m clear, it’s still shitty that they blocked this.

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      Read the article. It’s pretty clear that cancer is hundreds of different diseases and extremely unlikely to have a single silver bullet, but this description reads more like a coordination project

      the program has made strides in expanding access to cancer detection screenings, especially to veterans, increased support for programs aimed at preventing cancer in the first place and provided funding to groundbreaking cancer cure research

      Its goal is to cut cancer deaths in half by making diagnostics cheaper and more available, funding prevention, and funding research into treatments. No magical silver bullets here

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        When you type out the words “read the article”, it forms a verbal missile of hate aimed right at my heart

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          Ouch. Not intended as that but I do think your concern was answered in the article, and we’re all sometimes guilty of skimming the article or reacting to inflammatory headlines

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            I was being dramatic, no need for alarm. I read several articles a day, typically, but I’m usually pretty selective about it and this one didn’t make the cut, though I still wanted to discuss the topic. So, here we are.

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              I find it interesting that for many serious diseases, the biggest determinant of outcome can be how early you detect it. It’s not something I ever really appreciated before the advent of so many inexpensive tests, and seeing all sorts of stats on just how much difference early detection can make!

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                Yeah, particularly for cancer. Cancer, as I understand it, is a dice game from start to finish. The two commonalities all cancers have are that they’re cells that have immortalized and reproduce out of control. That is, they don’t die when they get signals to die, and they pick up one or more mutations that cause them to undergo cellular division at a higher rate than normal. This is how we still have HeLa cells today. So, the first dice game is getting one cell in your tissue to roll some flavor of those mutations together. From there, the dice start piling up in Cancer’s favor that it can roll more mutations to help it survive when it shouldn’t. The earlier you pick it up, the fewer dice cancer has to play with. Not to mention you’re not also having to fight the battle of trying to kill the cancer while it tries to kill you.

                This is also one of the fronts where it’s thought that mRNA vaccines are going to be huge. In fact, IIRC, the technology was specifically developed with cancer in mind and its use for creating pathogen immunity was a secondary consideration. COVID may have helped catapult that technology years ahead of schedule in terms of development pipeline. IMO, COVID is going to do for medical science what WWII did for machinery, electronics, and atomic science; we’re probably going to start seeing some huge leaps forward in biomedical knowledge and technology coming from theCOVID-centered research initiatives launched all over the world.

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                  Early detection is important for another reason. When trying to kill it you really want to be doing overkill. The less cells it is the less destructive overkill is.

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      Nope, Joe is very, very close to finishing the cure and just needs a little help from Congress to finalize it. But noooo, those dastardly Republicans don’t want him to give us this cure. It’s all their fault.

      Oh, and remember to vote blue no matter who .

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        Look, man, it’s an election year, the hype machine is going to be running full tilt, and every little thing is going to be blown way out of proportion, like that one time Obama killed a fly on national TV or that other time he wore a beige suit. I’m going to vote for Biden, not least of all because the other guy probably will end up putting me and my family on his “official action” list (thank you, SCOTUS). There’s lots more reasons, but Trump openly represents the end of the US government as we’ve known it, and that’s not hyperbole. He’s been very open about his intent to dismantle any component that could possibly tell him no or hold him accountable in any way, which would functionally make him a king. It’s far, far, far from an ideal choice, but it’s an obvious one.

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        I was going to say “inb4 someone says that it’s Biden’s fault that congress did something” but I guess it’s too late for that.