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    3 months ago

    I’m always amazed at your confidence, if I was wrong as much as you I’d have no confidence.

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        3 months ago

        Instead of getting defensive, use our interactions to improve yourself.

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            3 months ago

            You’ve already revealed yourself as someone who keeps ratcheting up the requirements for evidence that will convince you every time you get something that proves you wrong, which is arguing in bad faith.

            That’s how debates work, unfortunately you seem unable to provide any support evidence for your claims, you then get angry/frustrated when you original claim is questioned.

            The only evidence you have provided supporting your claim is an FDR quote. You haven’t/can’t provide anything else. It’s clear you’re outside your depth, you didn’t know the fair labor standards act set rates for multiple years (I may have set you up for that one…). Your commentary on the political climate as the reason minimum wage was not set as a living wage requires more than your claim. Here is the question you have to answer were there $0.40 bills that failed (there were), and did they fail because of the $0.40 rate (they did not).

            So I’m just gonna let you tire yourself out here because you’re clearly not interested in actually discussing this matter. You’re just trying to “win” the argument like some sort of incel.

            For someone who complains about others projecting, you seem to be doing a lot of it.

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                3 months ago

                Can’t defend your point so you resort to pictures.

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                    3 months ago

                    I’ll gladly have an adult conversation as soon as you convince me you’re doing so in good faith. Until then I’m being just as productive in this thread as your responses have been

                    You won’t, you don’t have anything to defend your claim other than “FDR said so, so it must be true”. You’ve resorted to pretending to take some moral stance.

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              3 months ago

              Minimum was started to keep black people from taking white jobs. It’s why I’ve never been a fan of it.

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                3 months ago

                Minimum wage has not helped as with most new deal policies it has harmed everyone it claimed it would help.

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                  I get the intent of it but the idea of a national minimum wage is just stupid. It solves nothing

                  Lefties like to cite Denmark and McDonald’s paying more. They also ignore, there is no minimum wage. It’s done by vertical trade unions.

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                    It’s a tool used by Democrats to get votes. They can claim to be helping and that’s all they look for.

                    Less than 1% of full time employees make minimum wage and their life is tough. Fortunately most don’t stay there very long. Bumping minimum wage pulls down everyone and makes more people have to live a tougher life. I’m convinced that if minimum wage was constantly increased to match “a living wage” we’d end up with the majority of people in poverty.

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      First, you must understand you are wrong. Most liberals don’t grasp or have self-awareness. They believe that if they repeat a lie enough, it becomes the truth.

      I believe there was only a short period in the 1960s or 1970s when the minimum wage was actually livable.

      People also tend to overlook the standard of living in the 1970s compared to today. We didn’t have cell phones, we had one car, and we wore hand-me-downs. Having your own bedroom was rare. Homes were much smaller than they are now, and almost all meals were consumed at home. We had a MUCH more simple life back then.

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        First, you must understand you are wrong. Most liberals don’t grasp or have self-awareness. They believe that if they repeat a lie enough, it becomes the truth.

        Bubba keeps saying I won’t concede when I’m wrong… The evidence is overwhelming I’ll have to concede your point.

        The most eye opening thing for me was driving through the appalician mountains in the 90s, every run down trailer had a satellite on it. Consumerism has changed every want into a need.

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          Exactly. The government even encourages it as well with free internet and phones. Everything is a need now.