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    20 days ago

    According to the IDF and American intelligence who came to the conclusion within an hour arter the attack, have shown no proof to support the claim and both have a history of false conclusions and outright fabrications when it suits their pro-Israel narrative.

    Uh no, according to Hezbollah themselves. Unless of course you believe the Hezbollah leadership are all Mossad plants

    Nope. There’s no defensive way to bomb civilian targets. That’s not how the word or indeed the world works.

    There were 3 deaths on the Lebanese side: 2 Hezbollah fighters and 1 from an associated

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      Uh no, according to Hezbollah themselves

      Gonna need a source on that.

      There were 3 deaths on the Lebanese side: 2 Hezbollah fighters and 1 from an associated

      Sounds EXTREMELY unlike how the IDF tends to operate. Gonna need a reliable source on that one too.

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        https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/hezbollah-says-when-time-comes-any-action-we-will-carry-it-out-2023-10-13/

        Hezbollah deputy chief Naim Qassem said on Friday that the group would not be swayed by calls for it to stay on the sidelines of the ongoing conflict between Israel and Hamas, saying the party was “fully ready” to contribute to the fighting.

        https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-strikes-hezbollah-targets-lebanon-military-says-2024-08-25/

        Hezbollah said the strikes killed two of its fighters in al-Tiri. The Hezbollah-allied Shi’ite Muslim group Amal said a strike on Khiam killed one of its fighters.

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          fully ready

          How on earth can you take “we’re prepared” to mean claiming that they DID the thing? 🤦

          As for the other one, it’s very vague. There’s no indication of whether or not there’s uncounted civilians, only casualties of the official participants with their source being the notorious massacrer of innocents and burier of truth IDF…

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            I think you have a very, very onesided view on this

            You can find plenty of articles from October where Hezbollah is proud to declare they were attacking Israel to support Gaza and tie up some of Israel’s forces

            You can find plenty of articles about how almost all civilians in Southern Lebanon have been evacuated.

            There’s no indication of whether or not there’s uncounted civilians, only casualties of the official participants with their source being the notorious massacrer of innocents and burier of truth IDF…

            The information you’re disputing is not coming from the IDF but directly from Hezbollah themselves, on both these issues

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              I share your opinion. I don’t think its worth continuing to debate that guy as you’ll never come to a conclusion. It doesn’t really matter what one thinks of the civilian tragedy in Gaza when it comes to whether or not Israel is fighting Hezbollah defensively. In support of Hamas they started sending more bombs in the northern border of Israel so the IDF followed suite to prevent Hezbollah.

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              I think you have a very, very onesided view on this

              Yeah, I do. Because some things aren’t about sides but about whether or not something is factually accurate.

              I’m on the “side” of not doing free PR for known liars whether they be Israel claiming they never did anything wrong, or terrorists bragging without evidence.

              almost all civilians in Southern Lebanon have been evacuated.

              Guess what? Forced relocation is in itself a war crime. Forcing people out of their homes so that needlessly bombing them to rubble won’t look as bad as it otherwise would is NOT a kindness.

              The information you’re disputing is not coming from the IDF but directly from Hezbollah themselves, on both these issues

              So you keep claiming without any source except “trust me, dude” 🙄

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                So you keep claiming without any source except “trust me, dude” 🙄

                It’s quite interesting, you asked for sources so I gave you some a couple posts up, but your reaction just comes down to “well yeah everyone is always lying so why would I believe that?”

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                    If Reuters citing the Lebanese army, UNIFIL and Hezbollah themselves isn’t enough for you, then my early impression seems to have been correct : you are far gone