• Call me Lenny/Leni
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    1 year ago

    Even if giving your sources the benefit of the doubt, you say that as if the US is the only place that talks about things going on in North Korea.

    • Egon [they/them]@hexbear.net
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      1 year ago

      Ah neat you failed to engage with the central argument, instead moving the goalposts to now being another weirdly general discussion.
      You were referring to American media and American claims, so this is the framework. Instead of either accepting your sources are flawed, that you have a bias, that they have a bias, that you might not be entirely correct, you choose to shift the discussion to one where you yet again take another incredibly broad position that is so vague it is nigh impossible to disorove. I don’t think you do this on purpose, I think it is reflexive, but I encourage you to interrogate your actions upon encountering data that conflicts with your worldview.

      • Call me Lenny/Leni
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        1 year ago

        I’m not moving any goalposts, I’m simply stating the observation that there are other nationalities who not only might serve as a spark or derivative for whatever the American media says but also that info is shared enough that it can amount to a confirmation. Some other countries and their media, such as the BBC and Russia Today, report on both America and North Korea as much as America does. Never did I imply I was only talking about things because America was the one doing the narrating though.

        • Egon [they/them]@hexbear.net
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          1 year ago

          m simply stating the observation that there are other nationalities who not only might serve as a spark or derivative for whatever the American media

          What does this have to do with a discussion about North Korea as presented by American media? You are not engaging with the argument or the points, you are not even relating it to your own, you are instead reframing the discussion to be about something else - You are moving the goalposts.

          Never did I imply I was only talking about things because America was the one doing the narrating though.
          dawg your alleged sources were all American media.

          Oh hey you managed to find one whole article! Good on you! Is that article the sources you mentioned? I just wanna be sure that I’m not missing out.

          • Call me Lenny/Leni
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            1 year ago

            I never said this discussion necessitated the American media, as opposed to just their doings, did I?

            • Egon [they/them]@hexbear.net
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              2
              ·
              1 year ago

              You initiated this with the framework of American media. Now that that media has been critiqued, you are trying to reframe the discussion to one that is being more general, rather than actually engage with the argument put forth or acknowledge in any way what I have been saying. You are not engaging with my argument, you are trying to avoid it by making the discussion be about something else.

              • Call me Lenny/Leni
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                1
                ·
                1 year ago

                You can’t reframe what was never framed to begin with. I am not changing the rules on anything.