• NeuromancerOPM
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    7 months ago

    If you think conservative women in bikinis are transphobic then that’s on you. There is nothing transphobic about the calendar.

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      One of the stated purposes of the calendar is to promote “real women”, implying that trans women aren’t women, which is transphobic.

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          7 months ago

          Has that word hurt your feelings?

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            Not at all but it’s been used to murder homosexuals and trans people without any consequences.

            It also further stigmatizes mentally illness.

            While you may enjoy mocking people with mental illness. I do not. It’s a serious health issue.

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              Not at all but it’s been used to murder homosexuals and trans people without any consequences.

              Prove it.

              It also further stigmatizes mentally illness.

              How?

              While you may enjoy mocking people with mental illness.

              I do not.

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                  https://www.americanbar.org/groups/crsj/publications/member-features/gay-trans-panic-defense/

                  People using gay panic as a legal defense doesn’t mean that words ending in “phobia” are contributing to the murders, or that the continued use of such words leads to zero consequences. It just means that is is being used as a legal defense.

                  Phobia is a mental illness. Using it lightly isn’t appropriate.

                  Here is the fun thing about language. It changes over time. And words can have several meanings. Horrifying, I know.

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                    Yes it does. Phobia is a fear. That is what is causing the panic. That is the legal defense. SMH. If you don’t want to be educated on a topic that’s fine but don’t pretend it’s not an issue which it’s cited to you.

                    And those meanings can be false. I get liberals love newspeak but the term bigoted is appropriate.

                    Now I’ll end this conversation as I’ve said what I’ve needed to say

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          Use what word? This ploy is so transparent that if you put it up high enough it would be a significant threat to the local bird population.

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      Beer Company Rivals Bud Light Launching ‘Real Women’ Calendar Designed To ‘Serve As A Reminder: Men Can Never Replace The Beautiful Women Of America’

      ^^^From the headline. Bud Light featured a trans woman drinking a beer (Dylan Mulvaney), and they rival Bud Light by releasing a calendar entitled “REAL women of america”.

      From The Article:

      In a statement to Fox News, Weathers said, “We’ve reached incredibly stupid times when it’s ‘controversial’ to say men can’t be women. This calendar will serve as a reminder: Men can never replace the beautiful women of America.”

      The purpose of the calendar is to imply trans women are not real women. It’s clearly and obviously transphobic. And you want to buy some for your mates as a giggle.

      The entire article revolves around the idea they are responding to trans people, specifically Dylan Mulvaney. How on earth can you have missed that?

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        Date who you want to date, and don’t worry about what others are doing.

        I do not see it as transphobic as I find the word transphobic a bigot word. It is improperly trying to imply other people are mentally ill. Phobias are mental illness. I do not think making light of mental illness is funny, as it has a stigma in society. It is trying to imply super straight people are mentally ill rather than it’s the way we are born.

        I would never date a trans person. That doesn’t make me transphobic. I am not scared of trans people at all. My orientation is super straight, and I should not be shamed for it, just as they should be shamed for being trans.

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          What is this tangent? No one is asking what you think about commonly used terms like transphobia, no one cares about your sexuality, no one is saying you are scared of trans people.

          This is about you supporting a clearly transphobic calendar. As a giggle for you and your bros.

          edit:typo

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            I don’t accept that word, and please stop using it. It is an attempt to label people as mentally ill. It is weaponizing mental illness, which further stigmatizes people who are mentally ill.

            I refuse to use it or participate when people use it. People with mental illnesses should not be mocked for your amusement.

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              This is very weaselly behaviour, trying to avoid a conversation about transphobia by pretending you think its a slur. It is not a slur and never has been, it is a label which denotes a prejudice and not a mental illness. No one anywhere believes it is a term of bigotry, and this a cowardly attempt to dodge talking about the issue.

              It does not and never has denoted a mental illness, it is not defined as an irrational fear (anxiety disorder), it denotes an irrational dislike or prejudice (bigotry). Transphobes are bigots, people who call out their transphobia are not bigots. Arachnophobia is a mental disorder, Transphobia is a bigotry.

              Also, how about you talk about you buying a calendar which engages in bigotry against trans people as a chuckle for you besties? Stop hiding behind excuses.

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                It is a slur. Read the history of the words and their use the law. It’s no joke. It’s something I take very serious.

                Homophobia and transphobia were and are used in court as defense for murdering people. People have beat murder charges using those words.

                I don’t find the calendar bigoted. I’m not as sensitive as you. I’m not one looking to be offended. If it’s not your flavor, don’t order one.

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                  You are making up pearls to clutch, this is pitiful. There is no other way to process this except as evidence you are a transphobe. And worse, a transphobe who would dearly like to ban people from using that word because it hurts their feelings.

                  I am incredibly disappointed in you.