• deaf_fish
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    9 months ago

    You’re right, from now on I will agree with things I hear from anyone without being critical.

    Hate immigrants, hey, me too. Hate taxes, hey me too. Hate brown people, hey me too. Capitalism is flawless, hey I think so too. Harming minorities is fine, hey I think so too. Heil Hitler, Heill Hitler.

    Strange, how did I get here?

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      9 months ago

      Good false dichotomy, really shows that you assume there’s only agreeing and disagreeing with other people and grounding your principles and axioms isn’t a thing.

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        9 months ago

        Slow down there buddy. My post was sarcastically worded thought experiment. You can’t derive my assumptions from that alone. My intent was to show that not grounding things and being uncritical will have bad outcomes, do you disagree? Yes, leftists take an L because our discourse is painful, but the alterative is worse in my opinion.

        I think you can agree and disagree with individual statements, people are, for the most part, to complex to put into a box. I also think grounding is important.

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          9 months ago

          Yeah, your experiment kinda sucked. The thing is, lefties can’t just agree to disagree and still collaborate or even just move on with their lives. It has to be harsh disagreement over the most miniscule points and “reading theory” mostly involves doomscrolling Twitter

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            9 months ago

            What person thinks scrolling Twitter counts as reading theory? Are you meaning to say that people on Twitter constantly tell each other to read theory, or are you genuinely saying that people think scrolling Twitter counts as reading theory?

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            9 months ago

            I agree that politicaly most leftist are aligned at the first handful of steps that should be taken and that sometimes the infighting can get in the way. If this is what you meant by your original post I would agree with you, but your original post lacked the specificity.

            Yeah, your experiment kinda sucked.

            Any reason in particular or are you just maulding?

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              9 months ago

              First of all it’s malding and second, good try with the usual tactics of crying “are you mad? are you mad? are you mad?" when receiving the slightest push back on anything.

              Other than the fact that your so called" thought experiment" was kinda gay to begin with, it lacks any understanding of how actual people come to any of their political opinions. Example: I sincerely do love capitalism. It is a great system that lifts people out of abject poverty and it’s major downsides are mostly addressed in liberal democracies. The reason I believe that is that I understand how capitalism succeeded and socialism failed over and over again whenever it was tried.

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                9 months ago

                Okay so the only thing of value I got out of your post above was that capitalism isn’t bad. A perfectly normal thing for somebody to do when they’re not mad is write a bunch of ad homs with one point. But that is besides the point.

                About the capitalism thing. I never said it was bad. In fact, I think capitalism has been good for humanity. But we are fast approaching a time where it will do more harm than good.

                All I was implying was that capitalism isn’t flawless. And the people who think it is are idiots.

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                  9 months ago

                  But we are fast approaching a time where it will do more harm than good

                  Yeah I disagree, lefties have been pushing this idea for decades, maybe even centuries now. It just doesn’t map on reality and all the alternatives they propose have either horribly failed multiple times, don’t address the actual issue, will never be politically feasible or (usually) all of the above.

                  The most cucked thing is that as opposed to hating conservatives, fascists or even liberals, leftists seem to waste most of their energy on hating other leftists.

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                    Well, if we are pointing out problems, I have a few with capitalism. We seem to have a hard time trying to produce chocolate or clothes without slavery. Healthcare is apparently harder than rocket science. Workers, not only have to put in 40 hours a week, they need to be in unions and strike in order to get paid fairly. No one can figure out how to solve wage theft. And my favorite part is every one racing toward extinction via global warming hoping that someone else will solve that problem.

                    Just because an economic system is in use doesn’t make it the best for a given time period. You could say a lot of great things about feudalism back in the day, but I don’t see anyone (with a functional brain) arguing for that.