CNN’s inaugural “Road to 270” electoral map shows President Joe Biden struggling to recreate his Electoral College majority from his successful 2020 run and former President Donald Trump with enough states solidly in his corner or leaning in his direction to put him in a position to win the presidency again.
If you cared to listen to Trump’s quote, while vulgar it’s not an admission of sexually assaulting women, he said they let him grab them by the pussy.
The “let” word is very important because it implies consent.
He’s literally in court today defending himself in a defamation suit against another woman he sexually assaulted so this isn’t the slam dunk you think it is.
Did he brag about sexually assaulting someoneor are you moving the goal posts?
He bragged about being able to because of his position of power. Just because he added the word “let” doesn’t mean he got consent, it means the victim wasn’t able to say no. If anyone’s moving the goalposts it’s you to explain to me how sexual assault works with semantics.
A cashier doesn’t “let” someone rob their store, and a victim of sexual assault does not “let” a man in power over them do whatever they want. In both examples, they are coerced into doing something they don’t want to do for fear of consequences.
I genuinely hope you are never on the receiving end and have to experience it for yourself, but if it’s a Republican presidential candidate maybe you’ll be ok with it ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Can you point to the quote where he “bragged about being able to because of his position of power.”
I agree forcing someone to do something does not mean they let them do it. Nobody says the cashier let the thief rob the store. Even when the cashiers are told do comply with the robber.
All we have is what Trump said and you can’t dismiss part of what he said because it doesn’t fit your narrative.
Sure can!
“I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. … Grab 'em by the pussy. You can do anything.”
He’s admitting to being able to, because of his status, grab women by the pussy without waiting because “they let you do it”. This means he’s not checking for consent, which matches up with a court finding last year that he IS liable for sexual assault.
He’s literally bragging about it and being found liable, and you’re still here trying to defend him by focusing on semantics, because it’s easier that way to turn a blind eye to actual events. Textbook delusion (ignoring some information to focus on another piece of information so as to construct a false reality).
Moving the goal posts again. He said they let him do it because he is a star not because he was powerful. On top of that you didn’t even include his whole quote.
Contrary to what you’ve been told implied consent is a sufficient defense for sexual assult. Letting someone do something is implied consent.
The reason that these semantics are important is if he was in a position of power, implied consent may not be sufficient.
Consent cannot be given when under duress, such as when you are pressured to give consent because the person who wants it is rich, powerful, intimidating or a prominent public figure. If there are consequences (real or perceived) to not giving consent, you cannot claim implied consent as genuine in court.
Which doesn’t matter anyway, because Trump was already found liable of doing exactly that.
Silly Billy, sexual assault defenses are for sexual assaulters. Trump doesn’t need you defending him so poorly, that’s what he has lawyers for.
Being put under duress is not letting someone do something.
A woman is not letting a man grope her when he follows her into a changing room uninvited.
I haven’t defended Trump other than to say the statement they let me is not bragging about sexual assult.
It is important to liberals to think Trump admitted he sexually assaulted people. I don’t know why but to them it’s important.
I met Trump at a party and I thought he was a sleezebag. He was a Democrat back then which just confirmed what I thought of him.
Just like the liberals want to squeal about how bad things were under Trump. Things were pretty damn good under Trump. I had no major issues. I got called back to active duty to help with COVID and I gladly did it.
A trans friend of mine kept talking about the genocide of trans people under Trump. I told her she must be late to the party since she is still alive and Trump said she could whatever bathroom she wanted.
I think people forget the power dynamics of wealthy people. Many women would gladly let Trump fondle them in public because he is wealthy and they want that life. It doesn’t turn into sexual assault because liberals want it to be.
Also the Carroll story I think is complete horseshit. She has zero real evidence. It is he said, she said and in a sane world that lawsuit would have been kicked out for waiting so long and no proof.
So while I am no fan of Trump, I think he is a Democrat in Republican clothing, I will vote for him in the next election over Biden.
He DID though, it just depends on which definition you choose to look at. But ignoring the validity entirely is the argumentative equivalent of sticking your head in the sand, which conservatives seem to be REALLY good at doing.
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As I’ve said before, to me it shows the power of money. Many women would love to be with trump. He’s rich. He’s successful. To me that statement was more about how the world works. It’s the part that nobody wants to admit.
Trump didn’t get a single wife because of his personality. He wasn’t banging porn stars because of his looks.
You need this statement to be true because you can’t stand the thought of his reputation being stained. Unfortunately, he’s already been found liable for both sexual abuse AND defamation:
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/05/09/nyregion/trump-carroll-rape-trial-verdict
You can continue to try and argue it’s because “he’s successful” even though he and his company have also been found to have lied about their finances MANY times:
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/13/us/politics/house-trump-finances-investigation.html
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2023/08/31/trump-lawyers-save-america-indictments/70648789007/
https://abcnews.go.com/US/verdict-reached-trump-organizations-criminal-tax-fraud-trial/story?id=94508551
Your view of Trump as some ultra-successful person who women throw themselves at is a fabrication he desperately keeps up, and his base falls for it and his many grifting schemes, but can’t seem to put the two together. Don’t believe me? Look into what happened to his “Official Election Defense Fund”.
You’re right, Trump didn’t get a single wife because of his personality, because he’s a massive piece of shit who has also been found in court to have committed sexual assault. His own wife (at the time) even accused him of it at one point.
Stop trolling. I said he was a piece of shit. How is that defending his reputation? I get you are emotional but take a few breaths and think about what you are trying to say. It comes off as hysterical.
That’s not a troll, that’s the situation as I see it. Otherwise, why continue to engage if you agree?
Just checked, bp and pulse are within normal limits and I’m feelin good. If you detect hysteria it’s not coming from me.
Got anything else to say in his defense?
Yep. Most people just scream he’s admitting sexual assault. What he’s saying is when you are rich, women let you do things.
Is it disgusting? Yes. Is it true? Yes. It’s why you see old fat men with young hot women.
What he’s describing is his privilege to make people do something they wouldn’t normally do because of his status. The word “let” does not imply consent. It simply implies they didn’t fight back, probably because they were scared for their wellbeing or life.
That’s still sexual assault.
If I rob a store and the cashier “lets” me access the cash register, does it count as stealing?
No. It’s not. How do you think he got his wives? His good looks?
That’s not a justification, and yes that’s still stealing.
Why are you defending an obvious piece of shit, while admitting he does piece of shit things?
Because the truth and integrity are important. He’s a piece of shit but he wasn’t admitting sexual assault.
He was admitting to getting away with sexual assault my guy. The sooner you can accept that, the better your life will be because you won’t feel the need to defend a piece of shit online.
We can agree to disagree.
My life is pretty awesome but thanks. I am not defending the man, I am defending integrity. That is the different between conservatives and liberals. The truth and integrity are important to a conservative. The left thinks if you tell a lie enough, people will believe it.
What integrity? He’s already been found liable of sexual assault.
Please show me an example of Donald Trump’s integrity, and I will back down.
You’ve….been defending him dude. That’s what you’ve been doing this entire thread. Bold move of you to lie about that, then use the integrity card. I get it though, it’s probably the only way one can justify defending the dude bragging about committing sexual assault.
What makes you think I’m a liberal? I just don’t like Sexual Predators to be in positions of power, regardless of party or political ideology. Wouldn’t you?
Trump is simply a piece of shit person, and probably sexually assaulted multiple people. Yet here you are continuing to defend him and attempt to high road your way out of it. How sad.