California Senator Scott Wiener is introducing a new set of bills to make streets safer across the state, including one that would change how you drive.
If they’re going fast enough that the speed limit isn’t fast enough to pass them, maybe you don’t need to pass them.
If I’m stuck behind a tractor on the road, they’re probably going 15 mph and I can easily pass them by just going the speed limit. If you’re stuck behind someone going 50 in a 55, tough luck. It’s not like you’re losing that much time anyway.
You save like 3 minutes over 30 miles. It’s nothing. People just think it’s so much faster because they don’t do the math.
I lived in Seattle for 7 years and am well aware of what I5 traffic through Tacoma is like during rush hour. I used to drive to visit friends down in Portland on Friday after work pretty frequently.
I mean where is he wrong? It’s mostly psychological outside of very long, high speed travel. People who drive aggressively in cities are usually shaving off 2 to 3 minutes if they are lucky. And that’s if they somehow also get lucky with traffic light timing.
In most cases if you had simply walked out your door five minutes earlier, you would’ve saved more time than the speeding granted you.
🙄 That leapfrog shit where you zip in and out of crawling traffic every time there’s a gap is dangerous and people shouldn’t do it in the first place. If traffic is super slow then the speed limit is easily fast enough to pass anyway.
Also, it shouldn’t be your job to speed to make up for bad traffic. That’s a failure of public policy and engineering. We should fix that.
There are a number of scenarios where one might do 10+ over the speed limit to get around someone on the highway that does not involve the leap-frogging-in-crawling-traffic maneuver you’re referring to.
Yeah, you might want to get around them, but only to save a couple of minutes. If someone is going slow enough for me to give a shit, the speed limit is enough to pass. Otherwise, tough luck, you have to go 50 in a 55
Speeding also makes the road less safe. No matter what speed you’re moving at, the issue you describe will exist. So I don’t agree that slowing traffic makes things more dangerous. In fact there is a huge amount of data that proves the opposite.
This is just mental gymnastics to justify what people want to believe—that they have a right to drive as fast as they want no matter what. Sorry, it isn’t true.
Or even better, just create viable public transportation, and discourage the plague of suburbia. Let the people who want to drive drive. And the people who only see it as a means to get from point A to B out of cars.
To allow for vehicles to pass one another before the end of this century.
If everyone is driving 10mph above the speed limit, we’re back to square one.
If they’re going fast enough that the speed limit isn’t fast enough to pass them, maybe you don’t need to pass them.
If I’m stuck behind a tractor on the road, they’re probably going 15 mph and I can easily pass them by just going the speed limit. If you’re stuck behind someone going 50 in a 55, tough luck. It’s not like you’re losing that much time anyway.
You save like 3 minutes over 30 miles. It’s nothing. People just think it’s so much faster because they don’t do the math.
You sound like someone who has never themselves driven in real traffic before.
You mean like the jackholes who think the best way out of a traffic jam is to drive on the shoulder so they can pass everybody? 🙄
“Real traffic” is nearly a dead-stop and you’re not in a position to gun it to get ahead in most cases.
Source: The real traffic of Seattle.
I lived in Seattle for 7 years and am well aware of what I5 traffic through Tacoma is like during rush hour. I used to drive to visit friends down in Portland on Friday after work pretty frequently.
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I mean where is he wrong? It’s mostly psychological outside of very long, high speed travel. People who drive aggressively in cities are usually shaving off 2 to 3 minutes if they are lucky. And that’s if they somehow also get lucky with traffic light timing.
In most cases if you had simply walked out your door five minutes earlier, you would’ve saved more time than the speeding granted you.
🙄 That leapfrog shit where you zip in and out of crawling traffic every time there’s a gap is dangerous and people shouldn’t do it in the first place. If traffic is super slow then the speed limit is easily fast enough to pass anyway.
Also, it shouldn’t be your job to speed to make up for bad traffic. That’s a failure of public policy and engineering. We should fix that.
There are a number of scenarios where one might do 10+ over the speed limit to get around someone on the highway that does not involve the leap-frogging-in-crawling-traffic maneuver you’re referring to.
Yeah, you might want to get around them, but only to save a couple of minutes. If someone is going slow enough for me to give a shit, the speed limit is enough to pass. Otherwise, tough luck, you have to go 50 in a 55
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Epic rebuttal. /S
That’s what it comes down to. “I’m too impatient, selfish, and narcissistic to value your safety above a few extra seconds of my life”.
Not being able to pass a slow car just angers people.
People who are angry about the slow car are probably going to ride their ass.
People riding other people’s ass don’t have enough following distance to react to an emergency brake.
Now there’s an accident and traffic comes to a half.
People coming up from behind are in the same scenario.
Now there’s a pileup.
Congrats! You’ve now made the roads less safe.
Speeding also makes the road less safe. No matter what speed you’re moving at, the issue you describe will exist. So I don’t agree that slowing traffic makes things more dangerous. In fact there is a huge amount of data that proves the opposite.
This is just mental gymnastics to justify what people want to believe—that they have a right to drive as fast as they want no matter what. Sorry, it isn’t true.
And pileups never happen when people speed 🙄
You know what? You’re right.
Let’s ban private car ownership.
Or even better, just create viable public transportation, and discourage the plague of suburbia. Let the people who want to drive drive. And the people who only see it as a means to get from point A to B out of cars.
Except those people who want to drive have a huge burden on society for basically no reason. Fuck em. Nobody gets to drive.