• S_204
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    9 months ago

    Rabbi’s aren’t Pope’s and they’re born to argue so when the vast majority of them clearly state that a non Jew saying Jewish prayers is contrary to the principles of the religion then I’m going to accept that as a religious decree.

    So yea your non jewish wife saying the bracha is a problem. You’re welcome to practice as you see fit, no one’s going to pull your Jew card over it but that doesn’t make it halacha/Kosher/ cool or any other version of acceptable.

    • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      9 months ago

      Why do Rabbis get to declare what is cultural appropriation when only 15% of American Jews say Judaism is about religion?

      It sounds like you are offended by it. I would love some evidence that the general Jewish population agrees with you.

      • S_204
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        9 months ago

        Why do the people who devote their lives to studying the scriptures of the religion get to be the ones who decide what’s acceptable within the religion and what’s not?

        Because they’re literally the subject matter experts. It’s also pretty damn clear in the tanach too. In order to perform the mitzvah you need to be Jewish.

        I’m not offended by how you choose to practice your religion, I’m pointing out that what you’re doing is absolutely cultural appropriation and off sides with the understood practice of the religion as a whole. You’re the one who seems to be offended by being called out on this, and that’s for you to come to grips with not me.

        • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          9 months ago

          I like how you keep ignoring the fact that the vast majority of Jews clearly don’t give a shit about what Rabbis think.

          Basically you’re saying that Rabbis get to decide what Jews consider to be cultural appropriation and Jews as a whole do not.

          Which is nonsense.

          • S_204
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            9 months ago

            There’s like 3 dozen angles to why your shiksa wife and kids shouldn’t be saying brachot. It’s more of a fact based gish gallop than moving the goal posts.

            And yes Rabbi’s as the stewards of Judaism get to make the call what’s authentically Jewish and what’s not. That you’re unaware of these basic tenets of your culture and heritage is pretty fucking weird.

            As I said above, you’re welcome to keep larp’ing as a Jewish family but you’re just lying to yourself and others. You seem to be really offended by this fact, maybe seeking counsel from a rabbi would help you with your conflicted emotions.

              • S_204
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                1
                ·
                9 months ago

                That you think that’s a bigoted term just reinforces your complete lack of understanding of your culture and the language that is at the root of it. Your wife and children are Gentiles, you’re pretending they’re Jewish. Shiksa is 100% the appropriate term, even if your parents used it derogatorily in your household.

                Even if I’m insulting them with a bigoted term, based on this conversation it’s fucking deserved LoL. People larp’ing as another religion as the lowest of the low.

                • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  arrow-down
                  1
                  ·
                  9 months ago

                  I’m not pretending they’re Jewish, that’s a lie. I specifically said the opposite. And ‘shiksa’ is a bigoted word. You are a bigot and a liar.

                  • S_204
                    link
                    fedilink
                    arrow-up
                    1
                    ·
                    9 months ago

                    You said they’re performing the prayers. That’s pretending to be something you’re not, and it’s gross.

                    Stop larp’ing and stop lying about being something you’re not.